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[temari]

Election board basically said that it is possible to revoke the mandate of an MP without waiting for the next election but Baldaras as a party has no authority to request for such legal action. Only voters in the MP's election wereda in Addis Ababa have the right to request to revoke his MP's mandate. Election board then would conduct another election in the wereda to replace the MP (የማሟያ ምርጫ). A fair reply from election board in my view.

Btw, the MP, Ato Zelalem Mulatu, has already apologized for the remarks but his deep seated dislike towards Addis Ababans is evident. You can't be a representative (እንደ ራሴ) of those who you deeply dislike/hate. The residents in his wereda should seek to revoke his mandate in my view. እንደ ራሴ means one who acts on my behalf but his attitude is more like an enemy of Addis Ababans. Residents should throw such a person out of the Addis Council.

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[kibramlak]

As far as I observe now, there no such a thing called አዲስ አበባ፣፣ It is appropriate to call the city አዲገጤ (filled with አዲስ ሰገጤ). That said, I don't know why you are saying balderas or any other party can't raise wrong doings other than the woreda where he is elected. First of all, I still can't understand how he was elected with this deep hatratw he has against the city. He called words against all the city residents. So, your logic that only the said woreda should request is nonesense. Plus, who said other MPs can't make the request ? ሁሉንም አጥባችሁ እና አሳንሳችሁ ከማየት መቸ ነው እምትሻሻሉት ?

[temari]

As far as I observe now, there no such a thing called አዲስ አበባ፣፣ It is appropriate to call the city አዲገጤ (filled with አዲስ ሰገጤ). That said, I don't know why you are saying balderas or any other party can't raise wrong doings other than the woreda where he is elected. First of all, I still can't understand how he was elected with this deep hatratw he has against the city. He called words against all the city residents. So, your logic that only the said woreda should request is nonesense. Plus, who said other MPs can't make the request ? ሁሉንም አጥባችሁ እና አሳንሳችሁ ከማየት መቸ ነው እምትሻሻሉት ?

I see you have misunderstood my sentence or you are not well-versed in a democratic process . What I said is NOT that Baldaras can't raise the issue. Don't twist my words. What I meant was that only those who gave their mandate i.e. the voters are the only ones that can revoke their mandate and I also said they should do it in this particular case. That is democracy 101.

If Baldaras means business and really wants the mandate of the MP to be revoked then it should follow the rules and gather signatures from the election wereda and start the process of revoking but if Baldaras is only interested in making noise then it will stop here and trying to cry foul etc. We will see what it really is up to.

And finally, instead of crying about አዲገጤ and what not, Addis Ababans should organize their own party and rule their city if they don't like PP. They have the means, the medias, the resource etc. and still decided to vote for PP. If you don't like PP, there is plenty of time until the next election to establish a new party and try to win it. What I dislike most is sitting lazy and idle and crying foul endlessly. Do something if you don't like how the city is run or shut up.

[Selam/]

“…democracy 101…” where in the constitution does it say voters can recall an elected official before the end of her/his term? I am just curious. In US, only about 1/3rd of the states allow a recall petition to remove local officials from office when special circumstances arise. Otherwise, it is the House or Senate that has the mandate to remove a US Congressman/woman or a Senator from office and 2/3rd of this legislative body must vote to do so. Voters have to wait until the next election even if they are disgusted by the politician they put in office.

With regards to Balderas, I feel they are still in transition from activists to politicians. They have yet to learn a lot.

As far as I observe now, there no such a thing called አዲስ አበባ፣፣ It is appropriate to call the city አዲገጤ (filled with አዲስ ሰገጤ). That said, I don't know why you are saying balderas or any other party can't raise wrong doings other than the woreda where he is elected. First of all, I still can't understand how he was elected with this deep hatratw he has against the city. He called words against all the city residents. So, your logic that only the said woreda should request is nonesense. Plus, who said other MPs can't make the request ? ሁሉንም አጥባችሁ እና አሳንሳችሁ ከማየት መቸ ነው እምትሻሻሉት ?

I see you have misunderstood my sentence or you are not well-versed in a democratic process . What I said is NOT that Baldaras can't raise the issue. Don't twist my words. What I meant was that only those who gave their mandate i.e. the voters are the only ones that can revoke their mandate and I also said they should do it in this particular case. That is democracy 101.

If Baldaras means business and really wants the mandate of the MP to be revoked then it should follow the rules and gather signatures from the election wereda and start the process of revoking but if Baldaras is only interested in making noise then it will stop here and trying to cry foul etc. We will see what it really is up to.

And finally, instead of crying about አዲገጤ and what not, Addis Ababans should organize their own party and rule their city if they don't like PP. They have the means, the medias, the resource etc. and still decided to vote for PP. If you don't like PP, there is plenty of time until the next election to establish a new party and try to win it. What I dislike most is sitting lazy and idle and crying foul endlessly. Do something if you don't like how the city is run or shut up.

[temari]

“…democracy 101…” where in the constitution does it say voters can recall an elected official before the end of her/his term? I am just curious. In US, only about 1/3rd of the states allow a recall petition to remove local officials from office when special circumstances arise. Otherwise, it is the House or Senate that has the mandate to remove a US Congressman/woman or a Senator from office and 2/3rd of this legislative body must vote to do so. Voters have to wait until the next election even if they are disgusted by the politician they put in office.

With regards to Balderas, I feel they are still in transition from activists to politicians. They have yet to learn a lot.

As far as I observe now, there no such a thing called አዲስ አበባ፣፣ It is appropriate to call the city አዲገጤ (filled with አዲስ ሰገጤ). That said, I don't know why you are saying balderas or any other party can't raise wrong doings other than the woreda where he is elected. First of all, I still can't understand how he was elected with this deep hatratw he has against the city. He called words against all the city residents. So, your logic that only the said woreda should request is nonesense. Plus, who said other MPs can't make the request ? ሁሉንም አጥባችሁ እና አሳንሳችሁ ከማየት መቸ ነው እምትሻሻሉት ?

I see you have misunderstood my sentence or you are not well-versed in a democratic process . What I said is NOT that Baldaras can't raise the issue. Don't twist my words. What I meant was that only those who gave their mandate i.e. the voters are the only ones that can revoke their mandate and I also said they should do it in this particular case. That is democracy 101.

If Baldaras means business and really wants the mandate of the MP to be revoked then it should follow the rules and gather signatures from the election wereda and start the process of revoking but if Baldaras is only interested in making noise then it will stop here and trying to cry foul etc. We will see what it really is up to.

And finally, instead of crying about አዲገጤ and what not, Addis Ababans should organize their own party and rule their city if they don't like PP. They have the means, the medias, the resource etc. and still decided to vote for PP. If you don't like PP, there is plenty of time until the next election to establish a new party and try to win it. What I dislike most is sitting lazy and idle and crying foul endlessly. Do something if you don't like how the city is run or shut up.

Selam, if you read the response from the election board, you will find in the last page references to the constitution and election regulations which states that voters have the right to recall an MP i.e. revoke his/her mandate anytime they wish. There are rules and regulations to do so such as collecting enough signatures etc. Election board then will have to hold a special election called የማሟያ ምርጫ for that district. Our opposition parties need to grow up and understand the laws and rules and fight by following them instead of constantly doing wild stuff just to get media attention.

[Selam/]

Temari - Agreed & thank you. Unfortunately, I can’t read the blurry prints.

“…democracy 101…” where in the constitution does it say voters can recall an elected official before the end of her/his term? I am just curious. In US, only about 1/3rd of the states allow a recall petition to remove local officials from office when special circumstances arise. Otherwise, it is the House or Senate that has the mandate to remove a US Congressman/woman or a Senator from office and 2/3rd of this legislative body must vote to do so. Voters have to wait until the next election even if they are disgusted by the politician they put in office.

With regards to Balderas, I feel they are still in transition from activists to politicians. They have yet to learn a lot.

As far as I observe now, there no such a thing called አዲስ አበባ፣፣ It is appropriate to call the city አዲገጤ (filled with አዲስ ሰገጤ). That said, I don't know why you are saying balderas or any other party can't raise wrong doings other than the woreda where he is elected. First of all, I still can't understand how he was elected with this deep hatratw he has against the city. He called words against all the city residents. So, your logic that only the said woreda should request is nonesense. Plus, who said other MPs can't make the request ? ሁሉንም አጥባችሁ እና አሳንሳችሁ ከማየት መቸ ነው እምትሻሻሉት ?

I see you have misunderstood my sentence or you are not well-versed in a democratic process . What I said is NOT that Baldaras can't raise the issue. Don't twist my words. What I meant was that only those who gave their mandate i.e. the voters are the only ones that can revoke their mandate and I also said they should do it in this particular case. That is democracy 101.

If Baldaras means business and really wants the mandate of the MP to be revoked then it should follow the rules and gather signatures from the election wereda and start the process of revoking but if Baldaras is only interested in making noise then it will stop here and trying to cry foul etc. We will see what it really is up to.

And finally, instead of crying about አዲገጤ and what not, Addis Ababans should organize their own party and rule their city if they don't like PP. They have the means, the medias, the resource etc. and still decided to vote for PP. If you don't like PP, there is plenty of time until the next election to establish a new party and try to win it. What I dislike most is sitting lazy and idle and crying foul endlessly. Do something if you don't like how the city is run or shut up.

Selam, if you read the response from the election board, you will find in the last page references to the constitution and election regulations which states that voters have the right to recall an MP i.e. revoke his/her mandate anytime they wish. There are rules and regulations to do so such as collecting enough signatures etc. Election board then will have to hold a special election called የማሟያ ምርጫ for that district. Our opposition parties need to grow up and understand the laws and rules and fight by following them instead of constantly doing wild stuff just to get media attention.

[DefendTheTruth]

Both Iskinder Nega and Lencho Leta are from the camp of reactionaries, their modus-operandi is about fear, about the past, they lack vision. Can't put an idea that is forward looking and solution oriented, if they solve any problem, then that is also just a short-term fix, which will cause more problems down the road.

They are good at complain and complain without an end. Today they complain about one issue, tomorrow already about a different issue. They don't understand that life is about compromise.

Lencho is always about fear of the Amhara in general, while Iskinder is always about the fear of the PP in particular, which he thinks is the right arm of the OPDO, and the Oromo people at large.

Mark my word this guy will come back very soon with yet another petition and he will be nicknamed soon the petitioner.

The people shouldn't allow themselves to be trapped into the fear of the reacitonaries and look toward making a better tomorrow, where everybody feels at home and included.