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doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by Sadacha Macca » 30 Dec 2021, 13:38

''In 1873, Emperor Yohannes (1872-1889) sent troops to occupy Hamassien and Seraye; they so terrified the population--held to Ethiopia by ''the slenderest of threads''--that delegations appealed to the Egyptians to come to their assistance. In December 1875, the emperor appointed a new governor of Asmara; he attempted to prevent trade with Massawa by penalizing offenders with the confiscation of their goods for the first offense and amputation of their hands for the second. By all accounts, the inhabitants were unwilling to pay taxes and were in a rebellious mood. In 1875, Wolde Mikael, the Koraj of Hamassien, destroyed Asmara in the course of his campaign against the Emperor Yohannes. In turn, Yohanness ordered the destruction of entire villages known to support the Koraj. And Ras Alula, during his brief period of rule as lord of the lands of 'Mereb Millash'' (1885-1889), excluded all local leaders from political life and attempted to confiscate 10% of the land. He was ''fiercely and successfully'' opposed by the local inhabitants. Moreover, it was reported in 1893 that the men of Akele-Guzai were not obliged to serve in the Abyssinian Army-nor did they pay any taxes. Of course, Abyssinian armies were remarkably effective in subjugating other neighboring states and bringing them into the Ethiopian Empire. The Mensa Ruking clans of the western lowlands became Muslim as a reaction to the merciless raids of the Christian overlords of Tigray.''

[Eritrea: Even the Stones are Burning
By Roy Pateman, page 40]

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by Misraq » 30 Dec 2021, 14:03

Take that and gauge agames repeated cry that says "Menilik deliberately separated the two Tegarus to weaken them"

Agames wrote countless books around the above narrative. It also looks like the Tigre in Eritrea (not Tegaru in Ethiopia) were once upon a time were christians but Yohannes barbarity may have forced them to adopt Islam.

Truth never hides itself despite many attempts.

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by tarik » 30 Dec 2021, 14:20

Here is z Eritrean hero and king Rasi Woldemicheal Solomon Aka GOMIDA of Hazega,Hammassien that chased and killed 50,000 of agame yohanes and alusa soldiers that were sent 2 asmara 2 invade my Eritrea,but Warrior Ras Woldmicheal Solomon AKA GOMIDA Defeated them in Hazhaz,Asmara Eritrea.BTW:Hazhaz means grab them in my Eritrean language of tigrinya.After We defeated agames in asmara they fled like b!ches and that's when z word Hazhaz began.So yes He was and still is z Hero of us Eritreans.He even called agames "deqi mai telamit"meaning z sons of backstabbers,after alula lied 2 him and promised him by z name of Mary(mariam) and decieved him 2 a peaceful talk.


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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by nizzy » 30 Dec 2021, 14:24

Misraq wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 14:03
Take that and gauge agames repeated cry that says "Menilik deliberately separated the two Tegarus to weaken them"

Agames wrote countless books around the above narrative. It also looks like the Tigre in Eritrea (not Tegaru in Ethiopia) were once upon a time were christians but Yohannes barbarity may have forced them to adopt Islam.

Truth never hides itself despite many attempts.
Menilik had very little influence in Eritrea. Eritrea's problem was primarily with Tigrayan warlords this is something that some Tigrayan authors work hard to hide and like to lay the blame on Southern Ethiopian rulers. This is where this Woyane tainted agazian crap gets its inspiration. Yohannes and Alula's crimes are well documented in Eritrea.

Anyway, in the low lands of Eritrea you can find old ruin churches across the area. This points to a time when many were Christian, but these ruins are far older than Yohannes and Alula so many were Muslims already but there were probably some who were to fed up with the cruelty that they came to associate Christianity with Tigrayan warlords and thus rejected them out right.

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by sebdoyeley » 30 Dec 2021, 15:37

where do you dig out this brother Sadacca?

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by Misraq » 30 Dec 2021, 15:47

It is amazing that no single truth comes out of agames. Even some gullible Amharas bought the agame narrative that says " before Menilik, Eritrea and Tigray ad one, but Menilik divided them". Agames are perfect manipulators.

Also we have historical account that fighters Italy brought from Eritrea had to undergo severe mutilation on their hands and legs which infurated Menilik as his plan was 40 lashes for each. It says "Tigrayans said to him that they are our subjects and let us punish them having the jurisdiction for any tigrigna speaker captives"

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by sebdoyeley » 30 Dec 2021, 16:00

The hate they have toward the king is enormous. He saves them from the Italian envision and this is what they pay him.
There is no Eritrean bad-mouthed or showed greaves on the king cos, He has nothing to do with what happened in Eritrea during his rain.
Misraq wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 15:47
It is amazing that no single truth comes out of agames. Even some gullible Amharas bought the agame narrative that says " before Menilik, Eritrea and Tigray ad one, but Menilik divided them". Agames are perfect manipulators.

Also we have historical account that fighters Italy brought from Eritrea had to undergo severe mutilation on their hands and legs which infurated Menilik as his plan was 40 lashes for each. It says "Tigrayans said to him that they are our subjects and let us punish them having the jurisdiction for any tigrigna speaker captives"

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by Abere » 30 Dec 2021, 16:11

Me too, neither I read an Eritrean complaining about Emperor Menelik II so far. It is only the Tigres that day and night complaining about him. In stead of being thankful for him to travel on horse back ( may be 1 month by then) to Tigray fought Italy. Emperor Menelik II, for sure, did this not in return of anything from Tigray ( such as tax) but out of pure love of country. They can not even let him rest after this much year. These Tigres with all modern degrees and diplomas are the worst form of manifestation of human stupidity. If this was the level of improvements for the Tigres show after 150 years, wondering how much worse stupid were the then Tigre ancestors of todays Tigres. Had those stupids not inhabited Tigray by then, Eritrea would have never fallen into the colonial hands of Italy. It looks history is repeating itself now, this generation of Ethiopia and Eritrea are fighting another stupidity of Tigres .
sebdoyeley wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 16:00
The hate they have toward the king is enormous. He saves them from the Italian envision and this is what they pay him.
There is no Eritrean bad-mouthed or showed greaves on the king cos, He has nothing to do with what happened in Eritrea during his rain.
Misraq wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 15:47
It is amazing that no single truth comes out of agames. Even some gullible Amharas bought the agame narrative that says " before Menilik, Eritrea and Tigray ad one, but Menilik divided them". Agames are perfect manipulators.

Also we have historical account that fighters Italy brought from Eritrea had to undergo severe mutilation on their hands and legs which infurated Menilik as his plan was 40 lashes for each. It says "Tigrayans said to him that they are our subjects and let us punish them having the jurisdiction for any tigrigna speaker captives"

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by sebdoyeley » 30 Dec 2021, 16:35

By the Agame ideology, If it serves their interest and feeds their narrative, it doesn't have to be true..
Abere wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 16:11
Me too, neither I read an Eritrean complaining about Emperor Menelik II so far. It is only the Tigres that day and night complaining about him. In stead of being thankful for him to travel on horse back ( may be 1 month by then) to Tigray fought Italy. Emperor Menelik II, for sure, did this not in return of anything from Tigray ( such as tax) but out of pure love of country. They can not even let him rest after this much year. These Tigres with all modern degrees and diplomas are the worst form of manifestation of human stupidity. If this was the level of improvements for the Tigres show after 150 years, wondering how much worse stupid were the then Tigre ancestors of todays Tigres. Had those stupids not inhabited Tigray by then, Eritrea would have never fallen into the colonial hands of Italy. It looks history is repeating itself now, this generation of Ethiopia and Eritrea are fighting another stupidity of Tigres .
sebdoyeley wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 16:00
The hate they have toward the king is enormous. He saves them from the Italian envision and this is what they pay him.
There is no Eritrean bad-mouthed or showed greaves on the king cos, He has nothing to do with what happened in Eritrea during his rain.
Misraq wrote:
30 Dec 2021, 15:47
It is amazing that no single truth comes out of agames. Even some gullible Amharas bought the agame narrative that says " before Menilik, Eritrea and Tigray ad one, but Menilik divided them". Agames are perfect manipulators.

Also we have historical account that fighters Italy brought from Eritrea had to undergo severe mutilation on their hands and legs which infurated Menilik as his plan was 40 lashes for each. It says "Tigrayans said to him that they are our subjects and let us punish them having the jurisdiction for any tigrigna speaker captives"

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Re: doing some research on when yohannes invaded hamassien/seraye?!

Post by Hawzen » 30 Dec 2021, 19:30


As Eritreans, we might have tones of complaints about former Ethiopian rulers.. but I think King Menelik II has never been one of them. Yes, I have heard agame historians badmouthing about Menelik II by making bogus accusations that he divided the "two Tegaru" which is bullshit. For example, the late Memhir Gebrekidan spent a lot of time teaching false history to the low IQ agames by claiming King Menelik II sold Eritrea to Italians. The fact is that Eritrea has historically never been part of Ethiopia. In fact, the least important and tiny killil Tigray has always been Ethiopian :lol: :lol: .

Having said history tells us it was the midget King Haile Selassie with the help of his white masters incorporated Eritrea by force by dismantling Confederation and then followed killing countless Eritreans inside Eritrea. Then of course Durg fought so hard for 17 years to maintain Eritrea as part of Ethiopia which he failed miserably.

Eventually, the Eritrean people set ourselves free when our former bi@tch aka the coward little Midget Meles' government came to power. The deal was Master Shabo would carry the coward TPLF to Menelik Palace and as a return Meles led TPLF would fulfill our demand. Today, Eritrea is a sovereign Independent Nation and a member of the UN. 27 years after Our former slave TPLF was chased out of Arat Killo by Querroor Lions and fano warriors, TPLF and the people of Tigray are back to square one to 1976 era where they deserve it to be... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hence there had never been any Ethiopian leader who sold Eritrea to anybody as agames try to portray. In fact, TPLF was the one who did the closest thing to selling Eritrea if there has been any chance of selling Eritrea..from Ethiopians point of view.

May God bless Eritrea and Ethiopia

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

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