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Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 08 Nov 2021, 12:42

Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Age-old issues over ethnic identity and autonomy must be settled


People hold candles and Ethiopian flags during a memorial service for the victims of the Tigray conflict organised by the city administration, in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia © Eduardo Soteras/AFP/Getty


The UN Security Council has finally woken up to the tragedy unfolding in Ethiopia, Africa’s second-most populous country. On Friday, it called for an immediate ceasefire and an end to “inflammatory hate speech” after China and Russia dropped their opposition to issuing a statement.

Unfortunately, neither Abiy Ahmed, the increasingly isolated prime minister, nor the Tigray People’s Liberation Front, which ran the country until 2018, are likely to heed the call. For both, anything short of total victory could spell their end.

Abiy, the 2019 recipient of what now looks like one of the most unfortunate awards in the history of the Nobel Peace Prize, has staked his future on crushing the TPLF. His government has made disastrous miscalculations in seeking to destroy what he insists is a terrorist organisation.

Not only did Abiy underestimate the fighting capacity of the TPLF, which controlled the army when it ran the country for 27 years until 2018. He has also cobbled together a mishmash of undisciplined forces, including armed militia from Tigray’s neighbour, Amhara, and soldiers from Eritrea who have committed some of the worst atrocities of the war.

Crimes, including mass rape and civilian massacres, have probably been committed by all sides, including the TPLF, as a recent report indicates. But as head of state, Abiy bears responsibility for dispatching forces that are so obviously out of control.

After unleashing the whirlwind last November, the prime minister looks increasingly likely to be levelled by his own tempest. The year-long conflict — which has cost thousands of lives, pushed 400,000 people towards famine and 2m more from their homes — has reached a yet-more perilous stage.

After looking like it was losing, the TPLF has staged a dramatic comeback. It is now within roughly 200 miles of Addis Ababa, raising fervent speculation that it intends to push on to the capital.

The city’s authorities have told citizens to arm themselves. Unlike in 1991, when Tigrayan forces overthrew the Marxist Derg and marched into Addis triumphant, few this time will welcome them as conquering heroes. Any hint that the TPLF is back in charge after almost three decades in power risks nationwide rebellion, particularly in Amhara, a bitter regional rival of Tigray.

Abiy has poured oil on the fire. On the first anniversary of the conflict, he spoke of digging a pit and said: “We will bury this enemy with our blood and bones.” Even in the midst of war, such remarks are unconscionable, particularly in a conflict with such a strong ethnic element.

The government insists it is targeting the TPLF and not Tigrayans. But the distinction is foggy. Authorities have told citizens to hunt for the enemy within. In an atmosphere in which hate speech has proliferated, Tigrayans in Addis say they are being rounded up.

A ceasefire built around a transitional government may be the only way out of this corpse strewn cul-de-sac. Abiy, though his party won a landslide in flawed elections last June, has lost all credibility to lead such a process.

Any interim government would have, as a matter of urgency, to try to settle the issue that has eaten away at Ethiopia at least since the fall of Emperor Haile Selassie in 1974. That is how to reconcile the claims for autonomy by different ethnic nationalities within the structure of an Ethiopian state. Abiy’s attempt to resolve that issue has gone irreparably wrong. The next must succeed if Ethiopia is to avoid the fate of Yugoslavia.

https://www.ft.com/content/a174be55-df4 ... 4d92cb5da3

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by kerenite » 08 Nov 2021, 13:17

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
08 Nov 2021, 12:42
Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Age-old issues over ethnic identity and autonomy must be settled


People hold candles and Ethiopian flags during a memorial service for the victims of the Tigray conflict organised by the city administration, in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia © Eduardo Soteras/AFP/Ge


The UN Security Council has finally woken up to the tragedy unfolding in Ethiopia, Africa’s second-most populous country. On Friday, it called for an immediate ceasefire and an end to “inflammatory hate speech” after China and Russia dropped their opposition to issuing a statement.

Unfortunately, neither Abiy Ahmed, the increasingly isolated prime minister, nor the Tigray People’s Liberation Front, which ran the country until 2018, are likely to heed the call. For both, anything short of total victory could spell their end.

Abiy, the 2019 recipient of what now looks like one of the most unfortunate awards in the history of the Nobel Peace Prize, has staked his future on crushing the TPLF. His government has made disastrous miscalculations in seeking to destroy what he insists is a terrorist organisation.

Not only did Abiy underestimate the fighting capacity of the TPLF, which controlled the army when it ran the country for 27 years until 2018. He has also cobbled together a mishmash of undisciplined forces, including armed militia from Tigray’s neighbour, Amhara, and soldiers from Eritrea who have committed some of the worst atrocities of the war.

Crimes, including mass rape and civilian massacres, have probably been committed by all sides, including the TPLF, as a recent report indicates. But as head of state, Abiy bears responsibility for dispatching forces that are so obviously out of control.

After unleashing the whirlwind last November, the prime minister looks increasingly likely to be levelled by his own tempest. The year-long conflict — which has cost thousands of lives, pushed 400,000 people towards famine and 2m more from their homes — has reached a yet-more perilous stage.

After looking like it was losing, the TPLF has staged a dramatic comeback. It is now within roughly 200 miles of Addis Ababa, raising fervent speculation that it intends to push on to the capital.

The city’s authorities have told citizens to arm themselves. Unlike in 1991, when Tigrayan forces overthrew the Marxist Derg and marched into Addis triumphant, few this time will welcome them as conquering heroes. Any hint that the TPLF is back in charge after almost three decades in power risks nationwide rebellion, particularly in Amhara, a bitter regional rival of Tigray.

Abiy has poured oil on the fire. On the first anniversary of the conflict, he spoke of digging a pit and said: “We will bury this enemy with our blood and bones.” Even in the midst of war, such remarks are unconscionable, particularly in a conflict with such a strong ethnic element.

The government insists it is targeting the TPLF and not Tigrayans. But the distinction is foggy. Authorities have told citizens to hunt for the enemy within. In an atmosphere in which hate speech has proliferated, Tigrayans in Addis say they are being rounded up.

A ceasefire built around a transitional government may be the only way out of this corpse strewn cul-de-sac. Abiy, though his party won a landslide in flawed elections last June, has lost all credibility to lead such a process.

Any interim government would have, as a matter of urgency, to try to settle the issue that has eaten away at Ethiopia at least since the fall of Emperor Haile Selassie in 1974. That is how to reconcile the claims for autonomy by different ethnic nationalities within the structure of an Ethiopian state. Abiy’s attempt to resolve that issue has gone irreparably wrong. The next must succeed if Ethiopia is to avoid the fate of Yugoslavia.

https://www.ft.com/content/a174be55-df4 ... 4d92cb5da3
AbyssiniaLady,

I concur with you here.

Just a historical thought.

Present day ethiopia is heading towards the ugly zemene mesafint or the princes era. The zemene mesafint era started in the second half of the 18th century and the culprit then was the tigrean ras michael sihul but it was culminated by the gondere atse tedros 2 in the year 1855.

Now you have an oromo, however, an oromo michael sihul a weak politician and a big liar as well, he is creating for you ZEMENE MESAFINT 2

Ethios get rid of this dude before it is too late. He is your enemy. He will disintegrate your country.

Sorry, I hardly comment on ethio internal affairs but sometimes yes.

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by Blueshift » 08 Nov 2021, 13:46

Where is agame Zana when you need him :lol: :lol: :lol: Here is how Addis will extend its welcoming hand to TPLF
The city’s authorities have told citizens to arm themselves. Unlike in 1991, when Tigrayan forces overthrew the Marxist Derg and marched into Addis triumphant, few this time will welcome them as conquering heroes. Any hint that the TPLF is back in charge after almost three decades in power risks nationwide rebellion, particularly in Amhara, a bitter regional rival of Tigray.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
https://www.ft.com/content/a174be55-df4 ... 4d92cb5da3

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by Fiyameta » 08 Nov 2021, 14:07

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by Blueshift » 08 Nov 2021, 19:45

Not fast, agame lady ! :lol: :lol:
Ethiopia and Yugoslavia are very different. Yugoslavia had definite borders. Ethiopia doesn't. Europeans are fundamentally very different from Africans either. Divorce is final for them. Disintegration is impossible for Ethiopia. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by TGAA » 08 Nov 2021, 21:19

Weyane ho , Ethiopians are not your typical camel harder clans who enjoy blowing up themselves in the middle of the city.


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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by Somaliman » 08 Nov 2021, 21:38

TGAA wrote:
08 Nov 2021, 21:19
Weyane ho , Ethiopians are not your typical camel harder clans who enjoy blowing up themselves in the middle of the city.







You fucking idiot,

Why can't you challenge her on the subject she's discussing rather than bringing Somalia in all the time, even though she's not Somali at all. If she starts discussing Mongolia tomorrow, is she also becoming a native of Mongolia? You're a proof that human being can also live without a brain because brains are nothing for you, even though they aren't everything.

What an idiot animal!

I would slap you in the face, but that would be animal abuse.

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 09 Nov 2021, 00:01

Somaliman

Don't let the smelly subhuman bother you, replying to that subhuman means you value him/her, If you don't engage, the omo valley subhuman will move on, So just ignore the subhuman.

There are no admins or moderators in this forum, Ignoring is the best solution.
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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by TGAA » 09 Nov 2021, 00:35

The lovefest in Somalia parliament: This is what the old weyane ho want to bring to Ethiopia; while chaos runs her poor country-- china is harvesting 500,000 pounds of fish from the shore of Megadishu every year. If you love Somalia do something about it -- old lady rather than prostituting for weyanes.


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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by Somaliman » 09 Nov 2021, 09:06

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
09 Nov 2021, 00:01
Somaliman

Don't let the smelly subhuman bother you, replying to that subhuman means you value he/she, If you don't engage, the omo valley subhuman will move on, So just ignore the subhuman.

There are no admins or moderators in this forum, Ignoring is the best solution.




Ditto.

This fucker is marginalised and doesn't gain anything from the Ethiopia he's parroting.

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 11 Nov 2021, 14:35

Letter: Abiy is not to blame for starting Ethiopia’s conflict

From Fisseha Adugna, Former Ethiopian Ambassador to the UK, American-Ethiopian Public Affairs Committee, Kennett Square, PA, US




I have been consistently disappointed in the FT coverage of the conflict in Ethiopia. The latest editorial (“Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia”, FT View, November 9) disproportionately lays the blame at the door of Abiy Ahmed, the Ethiopian prime minister, and essentially calls for a new transitional government.

This is both inaccurate and deeply dangerous for the international community’s understanding of the conflict. So many aspects are misinformed, but I want to address the most pressing.

https://www.ft.com/content/21fcbd56-ad2 ... 5d5b059d96

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 12 Nov 2021, 17:31

What lies ahead for Ethiopia as war enters second year

Thursday November 11 2021

If Addis Ababa falls, there is "a risk of a power vacuum where all types of violence can arise: banditry, settling of scores or, much more serious, ethnic confrontations between Oromo and Amhara, between Tigrayans and Amhara", warned Lefort.

A mosaic of more than 80 ethnicities, Ethiopia may find itself mirroring the fate of the former Yugoslavia, warned Gerard Prunier, a French researcher and Ethiopia expert, referring to the explosion of violence which split the European nation in the 1990s.

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/re ... ar-3615268

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by TGAA » 12 Nov 2021, 18:29

The Old Weyane bullhorn at it again.

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Re: Ethiopia risks becoming a new Yugoslavia

Post by AbyssiniaLady » 17 Nov 2021, 20:49

EU Sees Risk of Ethiopia Disintegration Unless Cease-Fire Reached

(Bloomberg) -- The European Union warned that Ethiopia risks disintegrating unless talks to end a yearlong conflict bring about a cease-fire.

The alarm sounded by the EU echoes concerns expressed by U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Nov. 12 before his visit to the region this week to discuss the crisis. Both the U.S. and the EU are considering sanctions against Ethiopia over its failure to end violence that has killed thousands of people and displaced hundreds of thousands more.

European foreign ministers discussed the situation in Ethiopia at a meeting on Monday, following a two-day visit to the Horn of Africa nation by Commissioner Jutta Urpilainen on Oct. 24. Since then, the situation has deteriorated and the EU has decided to evacuate non-essential personnel as well as prepare for possible further evacuations, according to a diplomatic memorandum seen by Bloomberg.

A senior EU official told the foreign ministers the country risked becoming the Yugoslavia of Africa, according to the note.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/eu-sees-ris ... -1.1682811

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