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[Hawdian]

The Horn is one family. We differ on some aspects of politics but let's not only respect each others but express our views like adults.

The forum is over run by trolls but many more good people are just observers.

The good men, women and children of Ethiopia are not our enemies. We have to redefine what that is actively and not be stuck in the past.

Life is relevance and like softwares and technology, we must review and update frequently.

We will create something better all together because our lives a tied together. You can't be affluent area if your neighbour lives in a shack.

Our destiny is a common dear Horn.

[Somaliman]

The Horn is one family. We differ on some aspects of politics but let's not only respect each others but express our views like adults.

The forum is over run by trolls but many more good people are just observers.

The good men, women and children of Ethiopia are not our enemies. We have to redefine what that is actively and not be stuck in the past.

Life is relevance and like softwares and technology, we must review and update frequently.

We will create something better all together because our lives a tied together. You can't be affluent area if your neighbour lives in a shack.

Our destiny is a common dear Horn.

The difference between you and I is that you believe to be part of Ethiopia and I am not. Among Somalis, from Somalia, we're not fooled by the charisma of PM Abiy or the emotional love between Abiy, Farmajo, and Isaias. Trust me when Abiy came to Somalia and said that he was thinking big saying that he had a bigger plan for Ethiopians telling them that they would be coming to Somalia and getting jobs as there were a lot of opportunities in Somalia, he was laughed at, as he made a fool of himself big time.

Wounds between Ethiopia and Somalia are not addressed yet, leave alone being healed. Until this is achieved and trust between the two countries is forged and tested over a period of time, we'll have no trust in Ethiopia.

FYI, we fought and lost men and women to liberate your arses from the Ethiopian oppression, none of you guys from what you call nowadays the Somali kilil participated in the 1977/1978 war - and you as Hawdian, you were not even born when we were spilling our blood in the arid land to rescue you. Never mind, we'll come back and bring you back to Somalia no matter how much you might be thinking that you belong to Ethiopia, albeit many Ethiopians do not consider you as Ethiopians to date.

Claiming that our lives are tied together and we've a common destiny is a load of crap to the highest order. We've nothing to do with Ethiopia or Ethiopians. We have neither basic infrastructure that link between countries, nor common political and socio-economic factors that impact the capacity of our respective countries. We should not confuse emotion with reality. Every country has its own homework to do. Feelings that are real but that are not reflecting the reality do not mislead anyone in this day and age.

Finally, next time, please try to say, "my people" and not our people, as Ethiopians are not my people; thus, we do not share a common people.

As for who is disrespecting Ethiopians between you and I, I believe you need to revisit your posts and be the judge.

[Hawdian]

That's fine you can hold different views and nothing wrong with that.

What's not cool is the emotional outbursts and slandering. You sound pretty much like some of OLF cadets.

I also believe that you are from Somalia proper and not the Somali Region.

People from Somalia need to focus on fixing that project, which has been stuck in limbo and stateless past 30 years rather than exporting their way of doing to others.

I am all for Ethiopian unity and have faith in multi-ethnicity, faith, culture as I believe it's good systems, governance and values that can make nations, people, societies better not necessarily shared MORE RECENT ancestry.

Besides, Ethiopia has always been kind and loving place for me. You can't be claiming to represent us.

The people of Côte d'Ivoire and Ghana have common Akan ancestry yet you will never hear them mixing things.

Somalia needs to focus on what's on its plate instead of trying to be a hero when it's not even for those within under her borders.



The Ras

[Somaliman]

That's fine you can hold different views and nothing wrong with that.

What's not cool is the emotional outbursts and slandering. You sound pretty much like some of OLF cadets.

I also believe that you are from Somalia proper and not the Somali Region.

People from Somalia need to focus on fixing that project, which has been stuck in limbo and stateless past 30 years rather than exporting their way of doing to others.

I am all for Ethiopian unity and have faith in multi-ethnicity, faith, culture as I believe it's good systems, governance and values that can make nations, people, societies better not necessarily shared MORE RECENT ancestry.

Besides, Ethiopia has always been kind and loving place for me. You can't be claiming to represent us.

The people of Côte d'Ivoire and Ghana have common Akan ancestry yet you will never hear them mixing things.

Somalia needs to focus on what's on its plate instead of trying to be a hero when it's not even for those within under her borders.



The Ras

People from Somalia need to focus on fixing that project, which has been stuck in limbo and stateless past 30 years rather than exporting their way of doing to others.

Yet you very often use the little achievement of such a country that "has been stuck in limbo and stateless past 30 years" to glorify yourself before Ethiopians on this forum! Bingo!

[Blueshift]

Somali man,
I don't claim to know much about the Somali nation. By the end of Second World War, how was the Somali Territories occupied by. I believe Somali Land was under the Brits, and Somalia Proper was under the Italians. What about the Somali part under Ethiopia. You may or may not like this one, but according to the OAU agreement, later adopted by the UN, Colonial boundaries defined how new countries in Africa were formed. Eritrea, Somalia and Libya were supposed to be nations by themselves. The world order at the time bent the rules for Eritrea and Somalia. Ethiopia was the beneficiary. The Somali Land case is mind boggling. What about the Ogaden Case. Was Ogaden part of Somalia at the time. What does Somalia base its claim on Ogaden and Somali land ?

[Blueshift]

BTW, the fact that Italy was an ally of the loser Germany, Italy itself was considered a loser. Ethiopia was an ally of England, hence the winner. That is perhaps what they had in mind when they were trying to define nationhood for Eritrea and Somalia. Just an added anecdote. The source of all of our misery today.

[Hawdian]

Somaliman,

I talk sense and facts.

Somalis of Somalia need to focus on things at home. Healing, unifying and reconciling that nation before telling us that you are sending a prop to Mars.

Once you can do that others will listen. Right I rather listen to Rwanda than Somalia because I know the facts on how one managed to get out of the dark hole.

We have to put emotions aside.

A man who is ill himself can't cure another.

The Horn are my people from Kassala to Lamu, Ras Hafuun to the valleys of Abay where the mighty GERD is taking shape.

My people are the Somali, Beja, Tigre to the colourful people of the Omo Valley.

One love.

[Somaliman]

Somali man,
I don't claim to know much about the Somali nation. By the end of Second World War, how was the Somali Territories occupied by. I believe Somali Land was under the Brits, and Somalia Proper was under the Italians. What about the Somali part under Ethiopia. You may or may not like this one, but according to the OAU agreement, later adopted by the UN, Colonial boundaries defined how new countries in Africa were formed. Eritrea, Somalia and Libya were supposed to be nations by themselves. The world order at the time bent the rules for Eritrea and Somalia. Ethiopia was the beneficiary. The Somali Land case is mind boggling. What about the Ogaden Case. Was Ogaden part of Somalia at the time. What does Somalia base its claim on Ogaden and Somali land ?

There's Somalia and then the Greater Somalia, and the latter comprises the regions in or near the Horn of Africa in which ethnic Somalis live and have historically inhabited, encompassing British Somaliland, Italian Somaliland, French Somaliland (now Djibouti), the Somali Region in Ethiopia, and the Northern Frontier District in Kenya.

There's nothing mind boggling about the north western region of Somalia, that some people happen to know it also as somaliland, as it's still part of Somalia. To my last information, yesterday, the Somali government dispatched covid-19 vaccines to somaliland.

It was the British that gifted the Somali Region currently occupied by Ethiopia to Ethiopia, as a vengeance on Somalis who preferred Italians over the British to "prepare" Somalia for independence.

[Somaliman]

BTW, the fact that Italy was an ally of the loser Germany, Italy itself was considered a loser. Ethiopia was an ally of England, hence the winner. That is perhaps what they had in mind when they were trying to define nationhood for Eritrea and Somalia. Just an added anecdote. The source of all of our misery today.

The source of all of our misery today.

Yep, including the protracted dispute between Ethiopia and Egypt. The British concocted treaties with neither consulting Ethiopia, which produces about 82% of the Nile River's water, nor considering its needs.

[Somaliman]

Somaliman,

I talk sense and facts.

Somalis of Somalia need to focus on things at home. Healing, unifying and reconciling that nation before telling us that you are sending a prop to Mars.

Once you can do that others will listen. Right I rather listen to Rwanda than Somalia because I know the facts on how one managed to get out of the dark hole.

We have to put emotions aside.

A man who is ill himself can't cure another.

The Horn are my people from Kassala to Lamu, Ras Hafuun to the valleys of Abay where the mighty GERD is taking shape.

My people are the Somali, Beja, Tigre to the colourful people of the Omo Valley.

One love.

One love.

You might as well sing us "Imagine" of John Lennon, even though I used to listen to it long before you were even born!