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[Sadacha Macca]

Abere,

I understand what you are saying. Eritrea coming to the rescue of Ethiopia ! Ethiopia can take care of itself. It is a big girl. Eritrea needs to find itself. If Eritrea had a government that is transparent and democratic, I would be the first one to give hand to our neighbor country that is part of the family. But, that is not so. Goodness, what Abbiy and Isayas are cooking behind the scene. Trust me, I don't like it. Anything that is fishy is no good. Isayas does whatever he wants in Eritrea. He is not accountable to anybody. Practically, he owns the country. This is the 21st century. Hence suspicion.

Sadacha wrote,

they won't make it to Addis/Finfinneforget about your wild dreams dude.

Are you talking to me ? Did I say, they are going to make it to Addis. Are you myopic or something ? Don't be paranoid. I did not say that. But, if they spend many years playing just guerilla fighting, if they are that good, chance are they could make it. Don't be paranoid. If anything from what is happening, they want it now, but they wont get it. It requires patience living in the jungle not Meqele or somewhere else. Kind of the Afghanistan tenacity. Actually, they came too far in a very short period of time.

This is what you said:
''TPLF needs to fight hit and run for the long duration to be able to march to Addis,'' which implies that they'd be able to make it that far. They won't. NO matter how much you discuss it. This ain't 1991. Remember, in 1991, and before, they only advanced outside of Tigray, after forming alliances with Amhara groups, Amhara farmers, EPLF-Shabia, their fathers, and others disgruntled with the Derg.
Had the Amhara been behind the Derg, they wouldn't have made it past Gondar.

[lil kogne]

Abere, your argument is clear and innocent. I mean by innocent, The Agameshi't you're talking to is not Eritrean. He always brings Isaias in to the mix whenever the argument is about Ethiopia VS Chigray. He is Agame wedi Defae-Arebia. He would show his sympathy towards his countrymen the Agame Junta every now and then as he has done today. If Eritrean which he is not, why in the world one suggest how the Junta should operate in order to survive. Every Eritrean and Ethiopian even some of the Tegarus to that matter are trying and working to throw the cancer Weyane in to the dust bin of history. So Abere, Suggestion to you as you know how the saying goes. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... It is Agame. So Abere it is Agamesh'it you are talking to. This Agameshi't may have been born in Eritrea as the other Tewelidges, but has no any Eritrean blood. He is angry towards Eritrea in particular Isaias Afewerki. little does he know for lots of Eritreans Isaias Afewerki is just an individual and we do not worship him. His greatness lacks celebrity type status. he has contributed his life time to the struggle of Eritrean independence. He has I am sure made lots of mistakes that an average eye can see and lots of them that his colleagues accuse him of. One thing about him I could say is though, no body can accuse him of corruption. And every country has a beef with any one who holds office and that remains as internal issue. The main idea is that every Eritrean excluding the likes of Blueshi't who are Agames have a bone to pick with the Junta Agames and would not sleep till we see them destroyed beyond repair. And the Agameshi't could stay mad at Isaias as long as he want for every Eritrean mentality is same as Isaias when you come to the Agames. And you will see The Fa'g'g'et Agame Bullsh't posting Donkey portrait for he craves the donkey dong as his mother and sister do.

[Blueshift]

Sadacha wrote,

TPLF needs to fight hit and run for the long duration to be able to march to Addis,'' which implies that they'd be able to make it that far

Let me show you logical reasoning.
A implies B
A
Therefore B.
A has not happened yet. This is very elementary but powerful logic. In other words, the contra positive analysis, B has not happened yet. Hence A has not happened.
Hence, your reasoning is wrong.
If they employ hit and run for a long duration, like the Talibans, they will march to Addis.
They have not employed it for a long duration. Last time they did, they marched to Addis.

Condom Ill Kogni, you are an idiot, hence shut up.

Adgi Z-mal, need I say more

[sun]

Now, since RAYYA has its own identity which is neither Amhara nor Tigre at its source why not accept RAYYA identity as the Rayyans demand themselves and then solve this issue peacefully and legally once and for all? Even though Rayyans speak both Amharci and Tigrigna but yet wouldn't accept Amhara or Tigre rule over them. In that case, what is the point of trying to rule over the people who wouldn't accept your rulership? Just wondering a little bit without claiming to be an expert on the issue.

[Blueshift]

Sun,

You are the only level headed individual in this thread. You are very right. Let the Rayans decide for themselves.
I don't men Ryan either.

[lil kogne]

[deleted] bullsh!t, wedi sher!muta Agame.shinti sebeytay fa'gg'et.It is amazing when this fa'gg'et opens his wide mouth so many opposition to his stinky opinion pours out in mereja.[deleted] wedi $0.25 shut your wide a$$ up you don"t know sh'it moth'erfu'cking Agame.there won't be any place to migrate for your abaq Agame tribe.freaking A$$hole i should say you're a whole a$$ instead. Mothe'[deleted] Sisy coward you would not qualify to carry my bag let alone to talk to me bas'tard loser. unlike you a$$ licker, I had hunted and killed Agame like you crying for mercy. Now hiding behind a screen taliking bull'sh'it as your name implys does not make you a man fesfas Agame . Terwae'.

[Blueshift]

Shyyyt head adgi ill kogni,

What is all this shhhyt you are writing. Did I hit a nerve on you back ? You are an adgi hence you act like an adgi. Does that make sense to you ? You know, Ethiopians are not idiots, They know where you are comming, scum bag !! Come down. You are a condom. Every one can see for him or her self. Shut up. This is you. Hopefully, you understand the analogy. My bad, you are an idiot. BTW, you sound like that aregit adgi Cigar

[Sadacha Macca]

Sadacha wrote,

TPLF needs to fight hit and run for the long duration to be able to march to Addis,'' which implies that they'd be able to make it that far

Let me show you logical reasoning.
A implies B
A
Therefore B.
A has not happened yet. This is very elementary but powerful logic. In other words, the contra positive analysis, B has not happened yet. Hence A has not happened.
Hence, your reasoning is wrong.
If they employ hit and run for a long duration, like the Talibans, they will march to Addis.
They have not employed it for a long duration. Last time they did, they marched to Addis.

Condom Ill Kogni, you are an idiot, hence shut up.

Adgi Z-mal, need I say more

No, I am not wrong here, you are implying that the situation in 1991, is the same as todays- i.e. conducive for another TPLF led march to the capital. Which is false. It couldn't be more wrong, even if they fight a guerrilla war from now until the year 2050.
They didn't do it alone the last time though, so the situations are very different. The last time they had many allies, the Amhara farmer's welcomed them, fed them, joined them, the Oromo farmer's were more or less the same, and of course, Shabia and their mechanized forces were present.
So, it was: an army with low morale, mengistu's army that is, vs an alliance of eprdf + the masses who hated the derg so bad that they aided anyone against the derg, + shabia ... the rest was history.

[Za-Ilmaknun]

Now, since RAYYA has its own identity which is neither Amhara nor Tigre at its source why not accept RAYYA identity as the Rayyans demand themselves and then solve this issue peacefully and legally once and for all? Even though Rayyans speak both Amharci and Tigrigna but yet wouldn't accept Amhara or Tigre rule over them. In that case, what is the point of trying to rule over the people who wouldn't accept your rulership? Just wondering a little bit without claiming to be an expert on the issue.

Yes, it is necessary that the people decide how they should be administered same as other places which have such quests. The whole ethnic homeland idea is what is creating havoc in the country. Why does it have to be either or? You can still be whatever and live in peace with your next door neighbor. Diversity doesn't mean putting people in a certain clustered environment and have them come together at the center only (if there ever is going to be any center). You should be able to live in Gambella and still be a Somali.

[Za-Ilmaknun]

Sadacha wrote,

TPLF needs to fight hit and run for the long duration to be able to march to Addis,'' which implies that they'd be able to make it that far

Let me show you logical reasoning.
A implies B
A
Therefore B.
A has not happened yet. This is very elementary but powerful logic. In other words, the contra positive analysis, B has not happened yet. Hence A has not happened.
Hence, your reasoning is wrong.
If they employ hit and run for a long duration, like the Talibans, they will march to Addis.
They have not employed it for a long duration. Last time they did, they marched to Addis.

Condom Ill Kogni, you are an idiot, hence shut up.

Adgi Z-mal, need I say more

Did you say any? You think you did..lol that is how you think others should think. When you shiiayyt blue, that is how things seemingly appear to you. You create that illusion of being something that you are not and keep repeating that to your poor soul until you get confused of your own imagination. Now go smoke that weed and make some stuff up. What is real is...there is no TPLF to come to power this time around. Live with this fact for the rest of your miserable leba life.

[Blueshift]

Sadacha,

I thought of you as a smart guy. You have a pitfall. You find excuses. They got to Addis and ruled Ethiopia for almost thirty years. It is wimpy to make excuses. They were good fighters. They were smart. They did what they had to do. Hoever, once they got to power, they became paranoid of Oromo power. Had they let the Oromos control their destiny, they would have been laughing today in Addis. The enmity between them and the amharas precedes 1991. It is very natural to linger on. But, doing what they did to the Oromos, you can fault them on that. But, do not make the same mistake they did.

Z-mal adgi,

They are much closer to you than to me. Face the truth. Most likely, the contested areas will be declared independent regions by the parliament. That is the right thing to do. But, the agames will never hear of it. Unfortunately, You will be hearing their bullets. Excuse my French. You can't handle the truth. Deal with it.

[Blueshift]

Brainless Donkey Z-mal.
What is the difference between you and this aregit adgi ?

[lil kogne]

Oh here she is the donkey dong lover aka Bull'sh'it. The ahole said condom besides her usual donkey possession. Agame Bull'sh'it, that is what your shi't head father forgot to wear when he sha'g'ged your $0.25 worth [ deleted ] mama. This wouldn't have happened where a hybrid donkey and human like you crowding the population. That is a terrible mix when the donkey and human DNA mixed and inherited Agame traits, what a freak of nature ufa'g'g bull'crsp you are. It would be easier for you to come out as bonefide Lu'tie and Agame and then we wouldn't dig out your identity any more. But your lekbat Agame [deleted] keep digging deeper hole for your qomal behind. You have and will never say different than your colleagues like Abaq, Halafi Mitri than would upset any of us.

[Blueshift]

Il Kogni, what a bone headed name ?

Old man idiotic Cigar aka ill kogne , stop posting the same shiyyyt you wrote thirty years ago under the influence of drugs. I know it hurts you when I call you feeble aregit adgi. Be that as it may, you really are an fug-ly looking old adgi. You and I are not the in the class or profile. BTW, how is your bantu wife doing. Please pass my greetings.
Kogni, what is the matter, you don't look good. Old age ?

[Sadacha Macca]

Sadacha,

I thought of you as a smart guy. You have a pitfall. You find excuses. They got to Addis and ruled Ethiopia for almost thirty years. It is wimpy to make excuses. They were good fighters. They were smart. They did what they had to do. Hoever, once they got to power, they became paranoid of Oromo power. Had they let the Oromos control their destiny, they would have been laughing today in Addis. The enmity between them and the amharas precedes 1991. It is very natural to linger on. But, doing what they did to the Oromos, you can fault them on that. But, do not make the same mistake they did.

Z-mal adgi,

They are much closer to you than to me. Face the truth. Most likely, the contested areas will be declared independent regions by the parliament. That is the right thing to do. But, the agames will never hear of it. Unfortunately, You will be hearing their bullets. Excuse my French. You can't handle the truth. Deal with it.

Blueshift,


If I disagree with you-that does not take away from my intellect.
Indeed, I have brought forth credible reasons/arguments, as to why things will not be like 1991.
While you, are repeating the same thing over and over: that they're good fighters.
It takes more than military prowess to succeed, hence the reason why we see that stronger armies lost to smaller, but determined guerrillas [French lost in Vietnam, America lost in Afghanistan, the Russians lost in Chechnya and in Afghanistan, etc].
If you don't have the support of the masses, there's a good chance that you'd lose the war.
America could not advance in the war in Iraq, until they had the support of the Sunni tribes, who decided to stop supporting the resistance there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p021q7fz

Remember, they are not the only good fighters in the country, or the region.

This is why fighting them in tigray is not smart, because it's their turf and their people would back their armies, fair enough, so... it's better to stand at the borders of tigray, and prepare strong armies there, so if they go there, then, of course, they'd lose, it'd go from guerrilla war to conventional warfare on turf that the tplf/tdf/etc isn't knowledgeable of/about.
Then, there's logistics, supply lines getting stretched, other essentials needed to sustain such a war, that tigray lacks.


They were trained by even better, more experienced fighters-Shabia, or the EPLF. The EPLF taught them how to fight and even sent Mussie Tekle to lead them in their early days- or did you forget that?:
You mentioned that they got to Addis and ruled for so long, but you neglected the reasons or how, they got there, and how they ruled for so long.
Those are essential details, if we are to understand the entire situation, sir.
The support of the people between Tigray and Addis, was crucial, and necessary for them to even advance beyond Gondar. Back then, Amhara farmers welcomed them, with food and aid, today, tigrayans cannot even dream of entering the Amhara region, without them being fired upon from all sides by hostile forces, every Amhara woman, man, even cat and dog would fight them-it would be impossible for them.
Do you think that the creation of the EPRDF was for fun? Or that an alliance of the countries most influential/largest ethnic groups wasn't needed?
No and no, are the answers. The TPLF could not have advanced beyond Tigray, had it not been for: 1] The alliance of the EPRDF, which included Amhara and Oromo elements that facilitated things for them, 2] the low morale of the derg army & the hatred that the masses had for the Derg, which caused the people all over to welcome the TPLF/EPRDF & EPLF alliance, seeing ANYTHING as being better than the Derg!
So... no, even if the TPLF were to fight ''smartly'' and ''guerrilla war'' until the return of Jesus, peace be upon him, they'd still lose and not advance beyond Amhara region.

[Abere]

For Tigres to cross Amhara land and sail to Addis Ababa is like putting a spoonful of salt into a lake. It is unthinkable to get a foothold in Raya Alamata and Korem. TPLF is not a factor anymore, farmers militia whipping and chasing them like a street dog. The problem is many of their former comrades and dreamers are still captives of TPLF's fake battler field history of the Derg era - unpopular government ruled 17 years without Ethiopian support. Amhara and all other groups were fighting Derg. TPLF reached to Addis on the back of Amhara & Eritreans.

[Fed_Up]

Even capturing Meqele was not important for TPLF. Now, I believe Abbiy left town on his own. TPLF needs to fight hit and run for the long duration to be able to march to Addis. Abbiy may have stopped that. The most stategic and important objective for TPLF should be openning the corridor to Sudan through Welqait. For Abbiy, to shut it down. Hence, why Alamata and Korem ? I believe there is a smart chess gamming going on between the agames and the weasel Abbiy .

Because they are better dumber that the dumbest yourself. ዴዴብ

[Blueshift]

Feddy,

You are an adgi. You don't speak tigrigna. Just shut up.

Sadacha,

What conditions are you talking about. That Shaebya gave them hand or something. Listen, You know why the mighty USA withdrew from Afganistan or Vietnam. The Russians tucked their behind and left Afganistan decades ago. Even the most powerful countries are vulnerable to it. The unseen enemy who attacks you at your weakest moment at will is the most dangerous. It attacks you at its own choice of time. You have just witnessed it. Why did Abbiy leave Tigray. The answer is, they attacked him at their own time and place. He did not have that option. I know your judgement could be blurred for the Oromos have been the victims. Lemma and Co. were fighting in the undergrounds and did the unthinkable. They overthrew the agames. Agames can do the same thing, That is gradually, weaken the federal army. They have been doing it too. You can deny it. It is there for you to see. However, I said, if they do this for a long term, they can pave the way to Addis. however, I doubt it. They are looking for a short victory. You know the smart amhara saying, ምከረው ምከረው እምቢ ካለ መከራ ይምከረው . I believe eventually, Abbiy will make peace with them. Mark my word.