DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑04 Apr 2021, 06:53
TGAA wrote: ↑04 Apr 2021, 03:59
On a lighter note in Eastern European country where I used to be a student, All Ethiopians used to hang Wubit Ethiopia Amensisa's photo on the wall almost every student used to have one, our Yemeni friend wondering he asked if she is the only beautiful lady in Ethiopian -- we answered she is just a sample.
Now let me go back to your outlandish and self-contradictory statements. When people point out that the Ethnic cleanser propagandists use neftegna instead of Amhara for their heinous purposes, most sophist Ormo nationalists including you that" Neftega means a man with a rifle or who uses the rifle to oppress " it doesn't mean Amharas. Now though it turns out to one and the same. Amharas.
"When it comes to defending and sustaining the country we (the other people of Ethiopia) take the lion's share.
We are the faces of Ethiopian patriots, Ethiopian Culture, Ethiopian Sports, Ethiopian Tourism (Ethiopian Beauty), Ethiopian Science, Ethiopian Literature, in general, we are the face of Ethiopia, but still አዎ ነፍጠኛ ነኝ is trying to revive its old version on us; Say NO to Neo-Neftegna."
You make a nubilous statement to cover up the real intent of your statement: let us be generous and use the weyane's demographic statistics -- Amharas and all other people would have a proportional share so don't use these wyeane's nation and nationality mobo jambo to include yourself and claim a higher number. All paid sacrifice proportion to their demography -- that I said being generous, cause sometimes politics lets history take the back seat.
If you don't see the outrageous expression that is coming from our Ethiopian brothers from Somalia and Afar , including the US and you think that the outrageous ethnic cleansing that is going on in Oromia is propagated by a bunch of Amharas in foreign land making a mountain out of a mole, you will soon hear crescendo that is going to get louder. Let me add one more thing here Weyanes , with their money) has blackened Abiy's name enough -- now with cheffe Oromia lead by Shemels is accommodating mass killing of Amharas in Oromia, if this is not stopped, Abiy will be toasted, after all that is his power base. Although I am saddened by what he chose to avoid doing, I still hold hope he succeeds.
One more thing the right to life and self-defence is a fundamental right of all human beings, you can not arm and hide murder thugs in the government and outside of the government like Shemels Jalmero is doing and object to the people right to defend themselves. This Amharaphob mentality makes the most rational minds to lose their marbles. what a sickness.
Let me ask you few simple questions, if you don't mind answering.
Did some from the Amhara political actors' camp openly demand the arming of Amhara settlers (sorry, for using that word, because they are in their own country in my view, but for some reason are displaced from their original home within a home and for convenience call them settlers here)?
Yes or no?
Did some also from the same camp came out and rushed to alleg that Obbo Shimeles Abedessa and other officials of his administration are accomplice to the crime purported against the citizens of the country in many different forms?
Yes or no?
Are many from the same camp and its associates from abroad currently waging a campaign to "Stop Genocide", effectively dividing the ethiopian people and ripping their unity that recently showed a significant public lobbying effect to make the case of Ethiopians get heard on some international stages, including on the floor of UNSC and abort the possible condemnation or even sanction against the country?
Yes or no?
If your answers to all of the questions is no, then I think there is no need to waste time here because you are not ready to discuss issues productively , apparently.
If all or any of the anwers are yes, can you please show me any dented evidence to support the allegations (that Genocide is taking place in Ethiopia against the Amhara people, and its sanctioned by government policy, and its warranted that the Amhara "settlers" have to be more privileged and be armed while the rest of the host community is not supposed to carry any weaponry)?
Let us get rid of the word settlers cause it is a very loaded word created on purpose to foster the sense of otherness in the Ethiopian community. The word has been used by OMN ethnic apartheid proponent the likes of Ararsa, Itana, Iskale . They even use Homeless to describe other Ethiopian nationalities living in Oromia. Everyone has settled at different time in different places for a different reasons. The good earth is for everyone who live in it. As to how communities of different cultures and religion should interact and prosper thatis what we all need to look at. Fundamentally the relationship has to be based on a justice and equality .
I will answer to all your questions with a firm YES
Did some from the Amhara political actors' camp openly demand the arming of Amhara settlers (sorry, for using that word, because they are in their own country in my view, but for some reason are displaced from their original home within a home and for convenience call them settlers here)?
Yes or no?
When it comes the definition of genocide Kofi Annan’s speech in Oslo, December 10, 2001 encapsulates it well.
“A genocide begins with the killing of one man – not for what he has done, but because of who he is. A campaign of ‘ethnic cleansing’ begins with one neighbour turning on another. What begins with the failure to uphold the dignity of one life, all too often ends with a calamity for entire nations.”
Yes, I also support the arming of any community that became a target of Ethnic cleansing. During the Derg time there were Revolutionary guards in every community to keep the peace. So it is not a unique occurrence in Ethiopia . This communities don’t have representation in their own community to address their concern because they are discriminated as you put is “as sattlers” . so they don’t have a say in the community they live. Because of this arrangement they are an easy target when a group of people within the community and outside troublemakers coalesce. That is exactly what is happening. Either get a solution for the ethnic cleansing by providing protection just like other residence in the community or they should be armed to protect themselves. Either one or the other. Simple. OPDO was able to provide a protection under weyane tutelage but now while it is 100% under an Oromo leadership Oromia has become a region where a targeted killing spree happens on regular bases, it shows the stinking politics in Chefe Oromia.
Did some also from the same camp came out and rushed to alleg that Obbo Shimeles Abedessa and other officials of his administration are accomplice to the crime purported against the citizens of the country in many different forms?
Yes and rightly so
During Obo Lemma’s administration the statement coming out his office had been very balanced. There were time he took actions when he found out there were elements in his administration that were preparing or were working in concert with other to attack other nationalities within Oromia. He was publicly acknowledged the a system has been set up to make us hate each other . Shemels on the other hand evey opportunity he gets he instigates and inflames tension between the Amharas and Oromos. I don’t want to list all of them here because from the secrete tapes that were released and his public statements are there for you to check . If his order to the mayer of Shasemene to go back to his sleep while the city went up in flames (while the city was in ethnic cleansing orgy ) doesn’t ring an alarm bell to you there is nothing that going to convince you his dereliction of duty, either by commission or by omission make him part of the cleansers.. All the Ormia medias also are in the sink with pretentious reporting 10,000 shene killed , Jalmaro was killed ---
Are many from the same camp and its associates from abroad currently waging a campaign to "Stop Genocide", effectively dividing the ethiopian people and ripping their unity that recently showed a significant public lobbying effect to make the case of Ethiopians get heard on some international stages, including on the floor of UNSC and abort the possible condemnation or even sanction against the country?
I have reservation on these and object that this tragedy not to be used by weyane paid agents. However, Ethiopians are within their right to vent their frustration against the Oromia adminstrations and its supporters nonchalant attitude about the Ethnic cleansing that is going on in Oromia. The Oromia Administration has enough power to stop this kind of things form happening . After all the killing happens in the same area and the residence of the communities that are being attacked go to the local Administrations to voice their concern – what they have heard from the community leaders is you better leave the area, and soon after the ethnic cleansing took place the community leaders come down hard on the victims fearing the gruesome crime will be exposed to the world . They confiscate cellphones from the victims , they count down the number of dead etc , they just Obfuscate as any criminal participant would do . So although all caution needs to be taken not to be taken advantage by anti-Ethiopians elements, to be a voice for voiceless poor farmers who are being killed because of who they are is appropriate.
If all or any of the anwers are yes, can you please show me any dented evidence to support the allegations (that Genocide is taking place in Ethiopia against the Amhara people, and its sanctioned by government policy, and its warranted that the Amhara "settlers" have to be more privileged and be armed while the rest of the host community is not supposed to carry any weaponry)?
I really didn’t mean to be sarcastic at all but what kind of evidence exactly you looking for? An agreement signed by Chefe Oromia to conduct ethnic cleansing?
Here is an overwhelming evidence you can infer that without the knowledge of the local administration of ODP these killings could not happened.
There were no such mass killing while Weyanes were the leaders and ODP was a tutelage to do what it was told to do . But now while from the top to bottom including federal level are being ran by OPDO these mass killing is happening none stop . why wasn’t then and why is it now.
While the cities were buring up all the police and the militias while in the city they never come till the federal showed up the next day. Do you think that happened by accident ?
In all places where mass killing dystruction took place the people who went to get the security protection got the same answer . We didn’t get order to interfere . do you think it is back by accident.
Why do you think those in church shelters are overwhelmingly the member of one ethnic group if as you claimed that the killing wasn’t ethnic-specific .
Why do you think the Oromia Administration fires more than 9000 from its staff had it not been for their direct involvement in the crime? Are we sure there are only 9000.. There is news coming out the Shemils trained special forces abandoning their post and are joining the jalmero camp how true I am not sure but I wouldn't be surprised..
Where do you think they got their sophisticated weapons and first-rate military uniform .?