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Sam Ebalalehu
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Re: "ከትግራይ ተወላጆች፤ ከሌሎች የኢትዮጵያ ዜጎች ከሁሉም ጋር ሆነን በሰላማዊ ሰልፍ ድምጻችን ለማሰማት፤ መንግስት ድርድር አንዲያደርግ ጫና ለማድረግ እንፈልጋለን" ዓረና ትግራይ

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 30 Mar 2021, 21:16

Here is the problem with their plan, Eden : to get the support of “other Ethiopians” they have to acknowledge the current crises was created by TPLF. Do they have the integrity to face fact as is ? I do not think they do. Well, in that case the “ other Ethiopians” support might not be in the horizon.
As for having demonstration in Addis, that is a no, no. The Addis residents are not cut for your ethnic nonsense drama.
I read somewhere Eden , you wrote Addis was the city who made me who you are. That is the worst , I think, lie you have ever told. Addis do not produce ethnic cadres. Addis has been the birth place of idealists who found an enemy in imperialism, feudalism, not with dirt poor Amharas.

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Re: "ከትግራይ ተወላጆች፤ ከሌሎች የኢትዮጵያ ዜጎች ከሁሉም ጋር ሆነን በሰላማዊ ሰልፍ ድምጻችን ለማሰማት፤ መንግስት ድርድር አንዲያደርግ ጫና ለማድረግ እንፈልጋለን" ዓረና ትግራይ

Post by sarcasm » 31 Mar 2021, 09:54

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
30 Mar 2021, 21:16
Here is the problem with their plan, Eden : to get the support of “other Ethiopians” they have to acknowledge the current crises was created by TPLF. Do they have the integrity to face fact as is ? I do not think they do. Well, in that case the “ other Ethiopians” support might not be in the horizon.
As for having demonstration in Addis, that is a no, no. The Addis residents are not cut for your ethnic nonsense drama.
I read somewhere Eden , you wrote Addis was the city who made me who you are. That is the worst , I think, lie you have ever told. Addis do not produce ethnic cadres. Addis has been the birth place of idealists who found an enemy in imperialism, feudalism, not with dirt poor Amharas.
Addis Ababans, all Ethiopians to that matter, were told a lot of lies about 6 months ago and hence betrayed the Tigrayan people. Now, the truth of what the Ethiopian government is doing in Tigray is out for everyone to see. Therefore, I think, they should use this opportunity to side the Tigray people.

Identity / ethnic politics is one angle of doing politics, but it is not everything. There are a lot of other angles such as ideological, worldview, economic issues, income group etc to understand politics. You seem to be stack on "other ethnic identity vs psudo Ethiopianist ( Amhara) politics".

BTW, I didn't say Addis Ababa has such effect on me. But you chose to believe that sarcasm is Eden.

temari
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Re: "ከትግራይ ተወላጆች፤ ከሌሎች የኢትዮጵያ ዜጎች ከሁሉም ጋር ሆነን በሰላማዊ ሰልፍ ድምጻችን ለማሰማት፤ መንግስት ድርድር አንዲያደርግ ጫና ለማድረግ እንፈልጋለን" ዓረና ትግራይ

Post by temari » 31 Mar 2021, 10:22

sarcasm wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 09:54
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
30 Mar 2021, 21:16
Here is the problem with their plan, Eden : to get the support of “other Ethiopians” they have to acknowledge the current crises was created by TPLF. Do they have the integrity to face fact as is ? I do not think they do. Well, in that case the “ other Ethiopians” support might not be in the horizon.
As for having demonstration in Addis, that is a no, no. The Addis residents are not cut for your ethnic nonsense drama.
I read somewhere Eden , you wrote Addis was the city who made me who you are. That is the worst , I think, lie you have ever told. Addis do not produce ethnic cadres. Addis has been the birth place of idealists who found an enemy in imperialism, feudalism, not with dirt poor Amharas.
Addis Ababans, all Ethiopians to that matter, were told a lot of lies about 6 months ago and hence betrayed the Tigrayan people. Now, the truth of what the Ethiopian government is doing in Tigray is out for everyone to see. Therefore, I think, they should use this opportunity to side the Tigray people.

Identity / ethnic politics is one angle of doing politics, but it is not everything. There are a lot of other angles such as ideological, worldview, economic issues, income group etc to understand politics. You seem to be stack on "other ethnic identity vs psudo Ethiopianist ( Amhara) politics".

BTW, I didn't say Addis Ababa has such effect on me. But you chose to believe that sarcasm is Eden.
Tigreans and "other Ethiopians" have a very different perspective on the war in Tigray and I agree with Sam Ebalalehu that without acknowledging the fact that the war was started by TPLF and without condemning the shameful attack on ENDF, I don't think "other Ethiopians" will be willing to join any demonstration in Ethiopia. Ethiopians see any demonstration as supporting the attack on our military and betraying ENDF. This is not gonna happen.

Tigrean activists must face reality and condemn the shameful attack on our military. Until this happens, no Ethiopian will betray the Army. First we all have to condemn the attack on the army then and only then will we all be free to stand against any human rights violations in Tigray. Tigreans must understand the seriousness of the attack on ENDF and stop acting as if nothing happened. ENDF is Ethiopia and if you attack our country and massacre our soldiers and don't have the gut to say sorry then don't expect other Ethiopians to stand with you. Tigrean activists are making it very hard for ordinary Ethiopians to side with Tigray. Condemn the shameful attack on ENDF and condemn the maikadra massacre then expect others to do the same.

Lakeshore
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Re: "ከትግራይ ተወላጆች፤ ከሌሎች የኢትዮጵያ ዜጎች ከሁሉም ጋር ሆነን በሰላማዊ ሰልፍ ድምጻችን ለማሰማት፤ መንግስት ድርድር አንዲያደርግ ጫና ለማድረግ እንፈልጋለን" ዓረና ትግራይ

Post by Lakeshore » 31 Mar 2021, 13:50

It is not the attack on the army that caused the war. That was a trigger point the main cause is the contempt of Ethiopian people for the junta and Tigree peoples who hide the criminal junta under their belly and bit the war drum. Whether they attack the army or not the war was inevitable. The Agame Junta reached its peak in its crime, loot, and human rights abuse. Despite their ignorance, they have subjugated Ethiopians for the past 20 years. Peoples were tired of them. Actually, I wish the war was a bit late and turn into an outright revolution so all junta and their clicks would be wiped out completely and we wouldn't hear anything about them. Unfortunately, some Galla and other small ethnicities who were created by TPLF were half-hearted to fight TPLF fully. Because they want to keep their job and fill their belly. Remember TPLF claimed they won 100% that means everyone that is in the parliament now are cadres of the old junta. The only reason they are there is not that they believe in the change but to keep their position where on earth a fourth-grader be parliamentary except TPLF lead Ethiopia.

The remnants of the TPLF junta even plan to protest in Addis this shows how the Addis administration and the so-called parliamentarians and also some Oromo OPDO members sympathize with the criminal Tigre JUNTA. TPLF and OLF should be classified as terrorist organizations and they should be illegal to operate in Ethiopia. However, the Oromia would not like this because it is TPLF who created them and help them to expand and took many areas from other ethnicities under Oromia. For example, they took from Somalia, Sidama, formerly the Amhara region of Benishangul, and even from Amhara and Afar region and the bigger price Addis Ababa basically from every region. Therefore, in order to keep their ill-gotten areas, they support the old TPLF time regions and laws indirectly.
Other ethics should not forget this and they should make a united front and stop this Oromizing Etiopia fantasy. Especially, Addis should be out of the Oromo region since it is the highest revenue source for the Oromo.

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Re: "ከትግራይ ተወላጆች፤ ከሌሎች የኢትዮጵያ ዜጎች ከሁሉም ጋር ሆነን በሰላማዊ ሰልፍ ድምጻችን ለማሰማት፤ መንግስት ድርድር አንዲያደርግ ጫና ለማድረግ እንፈልጋለን" ዓረና ትግራይ

Post by sarcasm » 31 Mar 2021, 15:21

temari wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 10:22
sarcasm wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 09:54
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
30 Mar 2021, 21:16
Here is the problem with their plan, Eden : to get the support of “other Ethiopians” they have to acknowledge the current crises was created by TPLF. Do they have the integrity to face fact as is ? I do not think they do. Well, in that case the “ other Ethiopians” support might not be in the horizon.
As for having demonstration in Addis, that is a no, no. The Addis residents are not cut for your ethnic nonsense drama.
I read somewhere Eden , you wrote Addis was the city who made me who you are. That is the worst , I think, lie you have ever told. Addis do not produce ethnic cadres. Addis has been the birth place of idealists who found an enemy in imperialism, feudalism, not with dirt poor Amharas.
Addis Ababans, all Ethiopians to that matter, were told a lot of lies about 6 months ago and hence betrayed the Tigrayan people. Now, the truth of what the Ethiopian government is doing in Tigray is out for everyone to see. Therefore, I think, they should use this opportunity to side the Tigray people.

Identity / ethnic politics is one angle of doing politics, but it is not everything. There are a lot of other angles such as ideological, worldview, economic issues, income group etc to understand politics. You seem to be stack on "other ethnic identity vs psudo Ethiopianist ( Amhara) politics".

BTW, I didn't say Addis Ababa has such effect on me. But you chose to believe that sarcasm is Eden.
Tigreans and "other Ethiopians" have a very different perspective on the war in Tigray and I agree with Sam Ebalalehu that without acknowledging the fact that the war was started by TPLF and without condemning the shameful attack on ENDF, I don't think "other Ethiopians" will be willing to join any demonstration in Ethiopia. Ethiopians see any demonstration as supporting the attack on our military and betraying ENDF. This is not gonna happen.

Tigrean activists must face reality and condemn the shameful attack on our military. Until this happens, no Ethiopian will betray the Army. First we all have to condemn the attack on the army then and only then will we all be free to stand against any human rights violations in Tigray. Tigreans must understand the seriousness of the attack on ENDF and stop acting as if nothing happened. ENDF is Ethiopia and if you attack our country and massacre our soldiers and don't have the gut to say sorry then don't expect other Ethiopians to stand with you. Tigrean activists are making it very hard for ordinary Ethiopians to side with Tigray. Condemn the shameful attack on ENDF and condemn the maikadra massacre then expect others to do the same.
I think you need to update you "facts" on the start of the war.

How did the War On Tigray start? Confessions of Amhara Region Police Commissioner & Federal army officials
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የኛ ለምንላቸው ሰዎችንም ነግረናል። ሁኔታው ከተፈጠረ ምን ማድረግ እንዳለበት ጥሩ ትስስር ፈጥረን ነበር። ያው ቀድመናቸዋል already!

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temari
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Re: "ከትግራይ ተወላጆች፤ ከሌሎች የኢትዮጵያ ዜጎች ከሁሉም ጋር ሆነን በሰላማዊ ሰልፍ ድምጻችን ለማሰማት፤ መንግስት ድርድር አንዲያደርግ ጫና ለማድረግ እንፈልጋለን" ዓረና ትግራይ

Post by temari » 31 Mar 2021, 15:38

Please stop insulting our intelligence. I know all these videos in their original context and none denied the fact that ENDF was attacked first by TPLF. Dimtsi Woyane openly told us about lightening attack and even Debre Tsion boasted having all weapons of northern command in his command. One or two days after the attack, Deutsche Welle's tigrean reporter from Mekele reported what he saw that all military bases around Mekele were now in control of Liyu Hail and that Liyu Hail is now even using ENDF trucks etc. That is an eye witness. There are simply tones of evidence that confirm who started the war. So stop the usual deception.

Ethiopians are sick and tired of the lies and deception of woyanes. We have had it for 27 years and still you come back with the same stupid tricks. Gosh! When are you guys be honest for once! This is sick! We are tired of it, do you hear us. Just tired of your deception and tricks. Stop it!
sarcasm wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 15:21
temari wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 10:22
sarcasm wrote:
31 Mar 2021, 09:54
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
30 Mar 2021, 21:16
Here is the problem with their plan, Eden : to get the support of “other Ethiopians” they have to acknowledge the current crises was created by TPLF. Do they have the integrity to face fact as is ? I do not think they do. Well, in that case the “ other Ethiopians” support might not be in the horizon.
As for having demonstration in Addis, that is a no, no. The Addis residents are not cut for your ethnic nonsense drama.
I read somewhere Eden , you wrote Addis was the city who made me who you are. That is the worst , I think, lie you have ever told. Addis do not produce ethnic cadres. Addis has been the birth place of idealists who found an enemy in imperialism, feudalism, not with dirt poor Amharas.
Addis Ababans, all Ethiopians to that matter, were told a lot of lies about 6 months ago and hence betrayed the Tigrayan people. Now, the truth of what the Ethiopian government is doing in Tigray is out for everyone to see. Therefore, I think, they should use this opportunity to side the Tigray people.

Identity / ethnic politics is one angle of doing politics, but it is not everything. There are a lot of other angles such as ideological, worldview, economic issues, income group etc to understand politics. You seem to be stack on "other ethnic identity vs psudo Ethiopianist ( Amhara) politics".

BTW, I didn't say Addis Ababa has such effect on me. But you chose to believe that sarcasm is Eden.
Tigreans and "other Ethiopians" have a very different perspective on the war in Tigray and I agree with Sam Ebalalehu that without acknowledging the fact that the war was started by TPLF and without condemning the shameful attack on ENDF, I don't think "other Ethiopians" will be willing to join any demonstration in Ethiopia. Ethiopians see any demonstration as supporting the attack on our military and betraying ENDF. This is not gonna happen.

Tigrean activists must face reality and condemn the shameful attack on our military. Until this happens, no Ethiopian will betray the Army. First we all have to condemn the attack on the army then and only then will we all be free to stand against any human rights violations in Tigray. Tigreans must understand the seriousness of the attack on ENDF and stop acting as if nothing happened. ENDF is Ethiopia and if you attack our country and massacre our soldiers and don't have the gut to say sorry then don't expect other Ethiopians to stand with you. Tigrean activists are making it very hard for ordinary Ethiopians to side with Tigray. Condemn the shameful attack on ENDF and condemn the maikadra massacre then expect others to do the same.
I think you need to update you "facts" on the start of the war.

How did the War On Tigray start? Confessions of Amhara Region Police Commissioner & Federal army officials
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የኛ ለምንላቸው ሰዎችንም ነግረናል። ሁኔታው ከተፈጠረ ምን ማድረግ እንዳለበት ጥሩ ትስስር ፈጥረን ነበር። ያው ቀድመናቸዋል already!

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