They blocked our roads, first;
Then they cut our share of the national budget;
They blocked investment to Tigray;
They cut Telecommunication services;
They also cut electric services to Tigray;
They blocked supplies of essential drugs, food, industrial raw materials;
And they came to our land!!
- They invited Eritrea's soldiers in their hundreds of thousands;
- They invited Somali Soldiers, Amhara mercenaries, Regional special forces;
- They mercilessly massacred tens of thousands of women, children and the elderly;
- They rapped our women;
- The burnt down our crops in our fields;
- They killed our animals;
- They looted everything in our houses;
- They destroyed every hidmo(a traditional house in Tigray) in our villages;
- They invited UAE to bombard our towns and villages; kill thousands of civilians; burn everything around;
-They indiscriminately shelled our towns with War Jets, heavy artillery, destroying many of them, and killing thousands of civilians;
- They killed 750 innocent people in Axum on a single episode;
- They killed more than 1100 Tegaru in Maykadira in the most brutal form possible;
They killed 165 people inside a church in Edaga-Hamus, called "Mariam Dengelet";
- They killed 30 priests in Guetelo "Madhane-Alem Church";
- They massacred mostly hundreds of innocent people in 700 of the "Tabia's" Tigray has, and in many of the towns and cities in Tigray;
- They destroyed every factory, every industry, every micro enterprise Tigray had;
- They blocked humanitarian aid from reaching the people now starved to death;
- They used hunger as a weapon of war;
- They did(and continue to do) everything in their capacity to decimate, destroy Tigray, erase Tigray from the map;
- They continue to do everything in their capacity to exterminate "Ethnic Tigray"; ALL THEY WANT IS FINISH US- MILLIONS OF MEMBERS OF ETHNIC TIGRAY.
- They committed every act of war crimes
- They committed every act of crime against humanity;
- They committed Genocide on Ethnic Tigray in all forms, and to the worst degree;
*** Abiy, Esayas, Amhara leaders.....they shall be held accountable for all the crimes against humanity.
- Humanitarian aid to the people in grave need, NOW!
- International criminal investigation on the crimes against humanity(including genocide) committed by Ethiopia, Eritrea, UAE and Amhara inside Tigray- NOW!
- Eritrea's forces out, NOW!
- Ethiopia's forces out, NOW!
- Mogadishu's forces out, NOW!
- International peace-keepers in, instead!
A swift, concerted international response against the Very Active Genocide in Tigray!!
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Re: They ......... and What is Needed NOW!
If It Is True With Proofs And Evidence:---- I Would Say ,We Are Not Done Yet Until We Make Tigrai Like Aleppo Syria. Period !!!!
Re: They ......... and What is Needed NOW!
Dear Sarcasm: Save Adna-Ztseat' s perspective is not the right perspective for peace
His perspective is biased in favor of MLLT-TPLF and against others. He never mentions ["We" (MLLT-TPLF) did that to them and they did this to us (MLLT-TPLF)]. Therefore, his perspective is the wrong perspective for the people of Tigraiy, Etiyopiya to take or adopt, if peace, common understanding and fraternal cooperation is to prevail.
MLLT-TPLF and the people of Tigraiy are related, but they are not the same. Generally-speaking, "all" MLLT-TPLF members are Tegaru but all Tegaru (i.e. the people of Tigraiy) are not members of MLLT-TPLF. The two identities,though related, are not the same. Save Adna-Ztseat, the author of the summary, and many other Tegaru elites & Co. often try claim that the two terms are the same and interchangeable. They try to use this confusion to escape from admitting their wrong doings, or the right perspectives for Tigraiy, and re-direct (divert, manipulate or spin) other people' s attention into their (Tegaru elite' s) own campaign propaganda. That is what Save Adna-Ztseat did. His perspective tries to present MLLT-TPLF as a victim of the wrong-doing of others, and not as TPLF leaders also sometimes were wrong-headed, aggressors, "hate" preachers, self-centered, arrogant (my way or the highway type), condescending, and as a rule often use lies, exaggerations, and misrepresentation of facts as favorite tools to misguide others, etc.
Let us see what he says , and what ought to be done:
1. "They blocked our roads, first;"
Others have the right to block their roads, like you also do, it is good to find out why they blocked some roads, and negotiate and make peace with them, if you need to get what you want.
2. "Then they cut our share of the national budget;"
MLLT-TPLF declared the Federation to be non-existent and the Federation wanted to by-pass TPLF and give the budget directly to the communities. The route was changed but the budget was not to be cut altogether. Hence, his claim is a lie.
3. "They blocked investment to Tigray;"
Foreigners (investors or not) can come into Etiyopiya if the Federation permits them to come in, and foreigners who wanted to go to Tigraiy, Etiyopiya, can be stopped by the Federation if they disregard the laws of the Federation. What should have been done right was for Tigraiy to talk to the Federation and follow the laws of the Federation. He does not say that Tigraiy had to respect its Federal Government's laws, or work to have the laws changed.
4. "They cut Telecommunication services;"
The Telecommunications "minister" showed a video evidence that TPLF personnel disconnected Maqelle's computer line from that of the nation' s in Addis Ababa. TPLF did the wrong act itself and is accusing the Federation as the wrong doer (without proving the video evidence was fake).
5. "They also cut electric services to Tigray;"
That is not proven true, and the Federation claimed, based on reports from guards who protected the main electric supply lines to Tigraiy, "the guards were ordered to go home, and they found out next day that power transmission to Tigraiy was cut off. Hence, Save Adna Ztseat' s claim seems to be a lie.
6."They blocked supplies of essential drugs, food, industrial raw materials;"
TPLF cannot force anybody, in Etiyopiya or otherwise, with essential supplies if it is not in friendly terms (and nobody can step their feet on its territory without its permission) with the suppliers. The right thing to do was to negotiate with the suppliers and make things happen for Tegaru. TPLF has to admit its failures, and ought have corrected them, rather than blaming others endlessly.
7. "They invited Eritrea's soldiers in their hundreds of thousands;
- They invited Somali Soldiers, Amhara mercenaries, Regional special forces;"
The claim that Eritrean, Somali or UAE soldiers are invited in to Tigraiy and had committed widespread atrocities, which is denied by the Federation and determined as false by a Tigraiyan reporter Araaya Tesfamariam (?), is based on hearsay. No hard evidence was produced so far.
8."They destroyed every factory, every industry, every micro enterprise Tigray had;"
This claim is made without evidence. It is not consistent with the Federation' s claim that MLLT-TPLF itself had destroyed roads, bridges, factories, cars, tanks, war hard wares, etc.
9."They continue to do everything in their capacity to exterminate "Ethnic Tigray"; ALL THEY WANT IS FINISH US- MILLIONS OF MEMBERS OF ETHNIC TIGRAY."
This claim is an exaggeration and a lie. There is no one ethnicity (but 6+ ethnicity) in Tigraiy. And the intentions and practices of the Federation are not to finish or exterminate (i.e. to kill everyone) every Tigraiyan, because only a small number of civilians were reportedly killed in the war unintentionally, and those who surrendered, even members of MLLT-TPLF leadership, were not killed. The fact that millions of Tigraiy' s people are still alive is a proof that Save Adna-Ztseat's claim is obviously false.
10."Abiy, Esayas, Amhara leaders.....they shall be held accountable for all the crimes against humanity."
Just prove your case.
11."Humanitarian aid to the people in grave need, NOW!"
That, with the permission of the Federation, is being done right now.
12. "- International criminal investigation on the crimes against humanity(including genocide) committed by Ethiopia, Eritrea, UAE and Amhara inside Tigray- NOW!"
No international group can come in to Etiyopiya and investigate anything it wishes to, without Etiyopiya' s consent, as long as Etiyopiya is a sovereign Nation. However the Tigraiy Government and the Federal Government could do so jointly or separately. If Tigraiy does not wish to remain within Etiyopiya, the current Etiyopiyan Constitution allows the people of Tigraiy to determine their fate peacefully. There is no need for war for Tigraiy' s self-determination, because it still could be done without war.
13."Eritrea's forces out, NOW!
- Ethiopia's forces out, NOW!
- Mogadishu's forces out, NOW!"
If Eritrean or Somali forces are actually not proven to be in Tigraiy, that means they were already out; and therefore, the demand is practically useless. Etiyopiya's forces cannot be out of Tigraiy because the House of the Federation and the House of the People's Representatives of the country (and Tigraiy is part of it) have given them a mission to accomplish; and don't expect them to get out before they fulfill their legitimate constitutional role.
14. Contrary to Save Adna-Ztseat's perspective, it is logical to conclude that Tegaru, such as Save Adna-Ztseat, or Sarcasm and others, need to act and convince MLLT-TPLF to stop fighting and let the people have peaceful life. In the long-term, however, there is a need of a cultural revolution in Tigraiyan values. Stop believing in any lies, and primarily your own lies.
Past glory of ancient kingdoms have little to do in sustaining people's lives today, new skills and hard work in using your own resources do.The ancients have earned their own glories, and you have to earn your own greatness and glory now.Tegaru need to look into themselves and re-assess their beliefs, goals, plans, expectations and accomplishments, and re-invent or re-define themselves objectively. That, I think, could start from collecting their people' s and neighbors' grievances and address them honestly. Tegaru elites, as a community need to love the truth, hard work, honesty, integrity, compassion, and cooperation through dialogue and negotiations. There is no peace without justice, and there is no justice without honesty and the discovery of truths. Societal development demands cooperation, and there cannot be cooperation without a required level of trust, and trust depends on honest intentions and the discovery of truths. I am just saying.
His perspective is biased in favor of MLLT-TPLF and against others. He never mentions ["We" (MLLT-TPLF) did that to them and they did this to us (MLLT-TPLF)]. Therefore, his perspective is the wrong perspective for the people of Tigraiy, Etiyopiya to take or adopt, if peace, common understanding and fraternal cooperation is to prevail.
MLLT-TPLF and the people of Tigraiy are related, but they are not the same. Generally-speaking, "all" MLLT-TPLF members are Tegaru but all Tegaru (i.e. the people of Tigraiy) are not members of MLLT-TPLF. The two identities,though related, are not the same. Save Adna-Ztseat, the author of the summary, and many other Tegaru elites & Co. often try claim that the two terms are the same and interchangeable. They try to use this confusion to escape from admitting their wrong doings, or the right perspectives for Tigraiy, and re-direct (divert, manipulate or spin) other people' s attention into their (Tegaru elite' s) own campaign propaganda. That is what Save Adna-Ztseat did. His perspective tries to present MLLT-TPLF as a victim of the wrong-doing of others, and not as TPLF leaders also sometimes were wrong-headed, aggressors, "hate" preachers, self-centered, arrogant (my way or the highway type), condescending, and as a rule often use lies, exaggerations, and misrepresentation of facts as favorite tools to misguide others, etc.
Let us see what he says , and what ought to be done:
1. "They blocked our roads, first;"
Others have the right to block their roads, like you also do, it is good to find out why they blocked some roads, and negotiate and make peace with them, if you need to get what you want.
2. "Then they cut our share of the national budget;"
MLLT-TPLF declared the Federation to be non-existent and the Federation wanted to by-pass TPLF and give the budget directly to the communities. The route was changed but the budget was not to be cut altogether. Hence, his claim is a lie.
3. "They blocked investment to Tigray;"
Foreigners (investors or not) can come into Etiyopiya if the Federation permits them to come in, and foreigners who wanted to go to Tigraiy, Etiyopiya, can be stopped by the Federation if they disregard the laws of the Federation. What should have been done right was for Tigraiy to talk to the Federation and follow the laws of the Federation. He does not say that Tigraiy had to respect its Federal Government's laws, or work to have the laws changed.
4. "They cut Telecommunication services;"
The Telecommunications "minister" showed a video evidence that TPLF personnel disconnected Maqelle's computer line from that of the nation' s in Addis Ababa. TPLF did the wrong act itself and is accusing the Federation as the wrong doer (without proving the video evidence was fake).
5. "They also cut electric services to Tigray;"
That is not proven true, and the Federation claimed, based on reports from guards who protected the main electric supply lines to Tigraiy, "the guards were ordered to go home, and they found out next day that power transmission to Tigraiy was cut off. Hence, Save Adna Ztseat' s claim seems to be a lie.
6."They blocked supplies of essential drugs, food, industrial raw materials;"
TPLF cannot force anybody, in Etiyopiya or otherwise, with essential supplies if it is not in friendly terms (and nobody can step their feet on its territory without its permission) with the suppliers. The right thing to do was to negotiate with the suppliers and make things happen for Tegaru. TPLF has to admit its failures, and ought have corrected them, rather than blaming others endlessly.
7. "They invited Eritrea's soldiers in their hundreds of thousands;
- They invited Somali Soldiers, Amhara mercenaries, Regional special forces;"
The claim that Eritrean, Somali or UAE soldiers are invited in to Tigraiy and had committed widespread atrocities, which is denied by the Federation and determined as false by a Tigraiyan reporter Araaya Tesfamariam (?), is based on hearsay. No hard evidence was produced so far.
8."They destroyed every factory, every industry, every micro enterprise Tigray had;"
This claim is made without evidence. It is not consistent with the Federation' s claim that MLLT-TPLF itself had destroyed roads, bridges, factories, cars, tanks, war hard wares, etc.
9."They continue to do everything in their capacity to exterminate "Ethnic Tigray"; ALL THEY WANT IS FINISH US- MILLIONS OF MEMBERS OF ETHNIC TIGRAY."
This claim is an exaggeration and a lie. There is no one ethnicity (but 6+ ethnicity) in Tigraiy. And the intentions and practices of the Federation are not to finish or exterminate (i.e. to kill everyone) every Tigraiyan, because only a small number of civilians were reportedly killed in the war unintentionally, and those who surrendered, even members of MLLT-TPLF leadership, were not killed. The fact that millions of Tigraiy' s people are still alive is a proof that Save Adna-Ztseat's claim is obviously false.
10."Abiy, Esayas, Amhara leaders.....they shall be held accountable for all the crimes against humanity."
Just prove your case.
11."Humanitarian aid to the people in grave need, NOW!"
That, with the permission of the Federation, is being done right now.
12. "- International criminal investigation on the crimes against humanity(including genocide) committed by Ethiopia, Eritrea, UAE and Amhara inside Tigray- NOW!"
No international group can come in to Etiyopiya and investigate anything it wishes to, without Etiyopiya' s consent, as long as Etiyopiya is a sovereign Nation. However the Tigraiy Government and the Federal Government could do so jointly or separately. If Tigraiy does not wish to remain within Etiyopiya, the current Etiyopiyan Constitution allows the people of Tigraiy to determine their fate peacefully. There is no need for war for Tigraiy' s self-determination, because it still could be done without war.
13."Eritrea's forces out, NOW!
- Ethiopia's forces out, NOW!
- Mogadishu's forces out, NOW!"
If Eritrean or Somali forces are actually not proven to be in Tigraiy, that means they were already out; and therefore, the demand is practically useless. Etiyopiya's forces cannot be out of Tigraiy because the House of the Federation and the House of the People's Representatives of the country (and Tigraiy is part of it) have given them a mission to accomplish; and don't expect them to get out before they fulfill their legitimate constitutional role.
14. Contrary to Save Adna-Ztseat's perspective, it is logical to conclude that Tegaru, such as Save Adna-Ztseat, or Sarcasm and others, need to act and convince MLLT-TPLF to stop fighting and let the people have peaceful life. In the long-term, however, there is a need of a cultural revolution in Tigraiyan values. Stop believing in any lies, and primarily your own lies.
Past glory of ancient kingdoms have little to do in sustaining people's lives today, new skills and hard work in using your own resources do.The ancients have earned their own glories, and you have to earn your own greatness and glory now.Tegaru need to look into themselves and re-assess their beliefs, goals, plans, expectations and accomplishments, and re-invent or re-define themselves objectively. That, I think, could start from collecting their people' s and neighbors' grievances and address them honestly. Tegaru elites, as a community need to love the truth, hard work, honesty, integrity, compassion, and cooperation through dialogue and negotiations. There is no peace without justice, and there is no justice without honesty and the discovery of truths. Societal development demands cooperation, and there cannot be cooperation without a required level of trust, and trust depends on honest intentions and the discovery of truths. I am just saying.
sarcasm wrote: ↑29 Jan 2021, 21:22They blocked our roads, first;
Then they cut our share of the national budget;
They blocked investment to Tigray;
They cut Telecommunication services;
They also cut electric services to Tigray;
They blocked supplies of essential drugs, food, industrial raw materials;
And they came to our land!!
- They invited Eritrea's soldiers in their hundreds of thousands;
- They invited Somali Soldiers, Amhara mercenaries, Regional special forces;
- They mercilessly massacred tens of thousands of women, children and the elderly;
- They rapped our women;
- The burnt down our crops in our fields;
- They killed our animals;
- They looted everything in our houses;
- They destroyed every hidmo(a traditional house in Tigray) in our villages;
- They invited UAE to bombard our towns and villages; kill thousands of civilians; burn everything around;
-They indiscriminately shelled our towns with War Jets, heavy artillery, destroying many of them, and killing thousands of civilians;
- They killed 750 innocent people in Axum on a single episode;
- They killed more than 1100 Tegaru in Maykadira in the most brutal form possible;
They killed 165 people inside a church in Edaga-Hamus, called "Mariam Dengelet";
- They killed 30 priests in Guetelo "Madhane-Alem Church";
- They massacred mostly hundreds of innocent people in 700 of the "Tabia's" Tigray has, and in many of the towns and cities in Tigray;
- They destroyed every factory, every industry, every micro enterprise Tigray had;
- They blocked humanitarian aid from reaching the people now starved to death;
- They used hunger as a weapon of war;
- They did(and continue to do) everything in their capacity to decimate, destroy Tigray, erase Tigray from the map;
- They continue to do everything in their capacity to exterminate "Ethnic Tigray"; ALL THEY WANT IS FINISH US- MILLIONS OF MEMBERS OF ETHNIC TIGRAY.
- They committed every act of war crimes
- They committed every act of crime against humanity;
- They committed Genocide on Ethnic Tigray in all forms, and to the worst degree;
*** Abiy, Esayas, Amhara leaders.....they shall be held accountable for all the crimes against humanity.
- Humanitarian aid to the people in grave need, NOW!
- International criminal investigation on the crimes against humanity(including genocide) committed by Ethiopia, Eritrea, UAE and Amhara inside Tigray- NOW!
- Eritrea's forces out, NOW!
- Ethiopia's forces out, NOW!
- Mogadishu's forces out, NOW!
- International peace-keepers in, instead!
A swift, concerted international response against the Very Active Genocide in Tigray!!
https://www.facebook.com/Zagazian/posts ... 9624271984