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Za-Ilmaknun
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Re: ALERT: Oromo-PP & Amhara-PP are neck-to-neck on Raya issue... Seems Oromo leaders suffering from fear of Big Amhara!

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 28 Dec 2020, 18:47

TembienLiberation wrote:
28 Dec 2020, 17:09
Oromo-PPs are doing their best to Award Raya to their puppet Tigray PP, whereas the people of Raya and Amhara PP seem will go for war again instead of being denied Raya being Amhara.

Well, we will see, but Raya is enough to diffuse Oromo PP army aggression within few weeks. This ascalesion will also put a BIG dent on the continuation of the Nigusse the Galla the Negestat Abichu chuchu
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This is inevitable!! Abichu is trying to kill multiple birds with one go.: Check the resurgence of the Amhara nationalism that could potentially stand up to OLF gimmicks, act as guardian of TPLF interests by holding up and continuing identity politics and ethnic federalism and pretend that EFFORT belongs to Tigreans,, :mrgreen: Appeal to OLF extremists to see what he is doing than what he is saying.

In any case, this is do or die moment for the indigenous people which could spill in to greater dimension than OLF assumes. It is better that it comes now than wait until OLF has all its tentacles in all spheres of the country like TPLF did. The time to confuse seems to be ending and the convince is about to be starting in earnest. The means to deploy to make the hegemony lasting longer is what we are going to be witnessing. :roll:

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Re: ALERT: Oromo-PP & Amhara-PP are neck-to-neck on Raya issue... Seems Oromo leaders suffering from fear of Big Amhara!

Post by sun » 28 Dec 2020, 20:03

TembienLiberation wrote:
28 Dec 2020, 17:09
Oromo-PPs are doing their best to Award Raya to their puppet Tigray PP, whereas the people of Raya and Amhara PP seem will go for war again instead of being denied Raya being Amhara.

Well, we will see, but Raya is enough to diffuse Oromo PP army aggression within few weeks. This ascalesion will also put a BIG dent on the continuation of the Nigusse the Galla the Negestat Abichu chuchu
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No, egalitarian OROMOS are NOT suffering from BIG amhara fear, unless you are suffering from smoking and sniffing too much because genuine amhara Bigness is a matter of Ethiopian happiness in the same way that genuine Oromo BIGNESS is a matter of supreme happiness for Mamma Ethiopia as well, since Oromiyya as a center includes and connects with all Ethiopians from all corners. That is why it is said that there is no Ethiopia without Oromiyya and there is no Oromiyya with out Ethiopia. Why invent and imagine "fear" when in fact they are only assets for each other.

So then, for now the aim of the military campaign was not aimed at changing borders and changing identities here and there because if done it may also provoke counter actions and counter provocations by the Tigriyans who may organize and come back to take something from the Amharas means [deleted] for tat, endless revenges and counter revenges causing endless sufferance to the ordinary citizens on the ground.

The case is better solved through the legal process and negation based on give and take so that lasting solutions may take root and sustainable peace prevail. One of the best solutions can be that that minorities are able to use their mother language, cultural values and traditions not for mutual provocations but for mutual support and diversity celebration as well as innovation promotions. MAJORITY RULE MINORITY RIGHTS! BINGO!

The question of Raya needs to be handled separately because the military campaign as is crystal clear was undertaken against clear criminals who have massacred members of the Ethiopian defense forces while kidnapping lots of them and robbing lots of military hard wares and software to be used against the country and its government.

This being said, it seems to be clear that some extremist fanatic fake amaras are suffering deeply from fear of BIG OROMOS regardless of the fact that the BIG Oromos did put BIG challenges and BIG fights against all invading internal and external arrogant forces, defeating them and saving Mamma Ethiopia over and over again and again and keeping mamma Ethiopia alive and kicking.

These can be witnessed by the cases of Obbo Magarsa Badhaasa(abune Petros) who defied the Italian invaders and called on all Ethiopians to come together in unity within diversity and fight the Italian occupiers until they get defeated and run away with their tails between their legs and go to [deleted] their wounds. Magarsa Badhaasa (Abune Petros) said all such statements while the Italian soldiers were holding loaded gun at Obbo Magarsa Badhaasa's head. :oops:

The very moment the Abune finished his defiant statement the Italian soldier shot the Abune in the head and killed him instantly. Add to this the case of general Abdisa Aga who organized resistance forces on two continents and fought the fascist forces with exceptional talents and abilities and through that weakening the fascist forces and strengthening the allied forces to the point of total defeat for the invading fascist occupation.

So let the facts on the ground talk for themselves instead of fabricating fairy tales and fictional imaginary pink wet day dreams of no value. Ato "TembienLiberation" has nothing substantive and tangible issues to show except his red ar$$$ baboon Chimp naked back hole.!
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Re: ALERT: Oromo-PP & Amhara-PP are neck-to-neck on Raya issue... Seems Oromo leaders suffering from fear of Big Amhara!

Post by Lakeshore » 28 Dec 2020, 23:11

SUN galla
I believe you do not know most likely or you deliberately ignore the fundamental rights of people. Ethiopians especially Amhara peoples are more than happy to have a majority rule i.e. democratic rule in Ethiopia we have no problem with it. But everything should be done accordingly there is not the selective democratic rule. And we do not support ethnic-based division rather we would like to have the country to be divided into north, south, east west-central and can expand like the northeast and northwest, southeast and southwest, central east ,central-west. But if you tribalist insists to be ethnic-based as transition and for the sake of peace we can conditionally accept it.

since ethnicity is based on language, culture, religion, and sentiment of belonging. Therefore to decide who will be the majority, there should be a referendum in determining what peoples want to be or in what ethnic administration they choose to be. This a very fair and democratic process.
For example, in Debrezeit people, should vote if they want to be under the Galla administration or the Amhara administration. In Raya, the people should vote if they want to be under Tigree or Amhara, or Galla administration. Actually, where ever there is at list 30% of the population has a different language or religion or culture or sentiment of belonging the referendum has to be conducted.

Then after all vote is counted then the majority will be decided. If the vote is very close let say with 10% of the total then we would have a second and even third working language. However, even those who identified themselves other than the major ethnic that they are located in and won their local ethnic will have regional administration that belongs to their ethnic identification.
For example, if Debrezite city identified themselves as Amhara then they will be a special zone in the Galla region administered by the Amhar administration.

In this scenario, no tribalist group can impose their will on the people that they do not represent.

Also, you tried to defame Abune Petros as a tribalist and make him Galla. The main mistake you and most of OLF delusional cadres made are that it is not from who you born but it is who raised you and which society molds you to become who you are.

ለመውለድማ አበትም ትል ይወልድ የሌም አንዴ

ከነ ተረቱ የጋላ ቄስ የለውም ሲባል ኣቡነ ጴጥሮስም ጋላ ኣይደሉም ምክኛቱም ስራቸው የናገራልና።

Actually, I have seen in many social media some Galla who claimed to be a priest because of the white ribbon on their neck make a false story about Ethiopia and they speak with contempt and hate but Abuno Petros at his tender age was speaking with grace, determination and command because he grows up he was thought like that by Amhara priest and he is Amhara just to put the fact straight. You call him megarsa debasa and whatever it is not a tag for being Galla. There many Amhara in Amarasient , welega raya who can't speak amharic it doesn't mean they are not Amhara unless they say so.

So if you are really for peace and prosperity we will accept both way unity or federalism just stop being detractive and try to impose your primitive cult on peoples who do not want it. For example, you came and asked to celebrate Erechaa in Addis have there been any history of that or sentiment of that in Addis no but you tried to force on Addis people to ask the people, and if they say ok they go ahead and if they say no stop. It is as simple as that.

Negati

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