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Wedi
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ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)

Post by Wedi » 16 Dec 2020, 14:21

ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)




ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም….! ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር


የOMN ጋዜጠኞች እዚህ ጅጅጋ ዩኒቨርስቲ መጥተዋልና በትምህርት ፍኖተ ካርታው ላይ ሀሳብህን ይፈልጋሉ አሉኝ። ግዴለም ይቅርብኝ፣ አቋሜ ለአቋማቸው ስለማይጥም አያስተላልፉትም አልኳቸው። እውነቴን ነው።

ለምሳሌ በቋንቋ ጉዳይ የሶማሌ ልጆች አማርኛን በደንብ መማር አለባቸው። እኛ አማርኛን የቻልን እና በአማርኛ የተለያዩ እውቀትን የገበየን፣ ቅኔን፣ ተረትና ምሳሌውን፣ ቀልድና ተረቡን፣ አሽሙርና የቃላት ስንጠቃውን አሳምረን ያወቅን የሶማሌ ተወላጆች ከዚህ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም። የሶማሌ ልጅ በኢትዮጵያ ሀገሩ ጉዳይ በደንብ ከዳር ወደ መሀል መጥቶ ከሌሎች ኢትዮጵያውያን ጋር ጥቅሙን ለማስከበር፣ መብቱን ለመጠየቅ፣ የራሱን የሚገባውን ከሀገር ሀብት ድርሻውን በአፅዕኖት አስረግጦ ለመከራከር የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ያስፈልገዋል ።

የሚያስፈልገው ለእራሱ ጥቅም ሲል እንጂ ለማንም አይደለም። አማርኛን ስላወቀ ሶማሌነቱ አይጠፋበትም፣ እንዲህ የሚያስቡ ሰዎች ለፖለቲካ ትርፍ ትውልድ የነሱን ሀቲት ብቻ እንዲሰማ ፣ ዞርዞር ብሎ ታሪክ እንዳያይ የሚፈልጉ ናቸው።

ቋንቋ መግባቢያ ነው። ብንችል ሰማንያ ቋንቋን ብናውቅ ጥሩ ነበር። ሰው ቋንቋን ካወቀ ስራን፣ ቢዝነስን እና እድሉን ከማስፋት አልፎ ጠላት እንኳ ቢኖረው ቋንቋን በማወቁ ከሞት ይተርፋል። ታሪክ ማወቅ ጥሩ ነው። አብርሆት ይሰጣል። በኢማም አህመድ (አህመድ ግራኝ) ጊዜ ሰራዊቱ የንጉሱን ካንፕ ሾልኮ ለመሰለል ስለፈለገ አህመድ ሶማሌ ወታደሮችን አማርኛ እንዲማሩ አድርጎ ነበር። በጥቂት ወራት ለምደው የንጉሱን የካምፕ ጠባቂዎች “እየህ ቤቶች፣ እንደምን ዋላችሁ” እያሉ አልፈው ሰልለው ይወጡ ነበር።

ይህ ታሪክ ነው። ከዚህ ኢማም በታች የሚያስቡ ሰዎች አሁን መኖራቸው በጣም ይገርማል። በ1535 አካባቢ ሰው የቋንቋን ጥቅም አውቆ ሀገር ሲመራ፣ አሁን ሀገርን የመምራት እድሉን ያገኘ አካል እንዴት ስለቋንቋ እንዲህ የተዛባ አመለካከት ይኖረዋል ። በጣም ነው የሚገርመኝ።

kibramlak
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Re: ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)

Post by kibramlak » 16 Dec 2020, 14:55

This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.

Wedi wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:21
ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)




ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም….! ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር


የOMN ጋዜጠኞች እዚህ ጅጅጋ ዩኒቨርስቲ መጥተዋልና በትምህርት ፍኖተ ካርታው ላይ ሀሳብህን ይፈልጋሉ አሉኝ። ግዴለም ይቅርብኝ፣ አቋሜ ለአቋማቸው ስለማይጥም አያስተላልፉትም አልኳቸው። እውነቴን ነው።

ለምሳሌ በቋንቋ ጉዳይ የሶማሌ ልጆች አማርኛን በደንብ መማር አለባቸው። እኛ አማርኛን የቻልን እና በአማርኛ የተለያዩ እውቀትን የገበየን፣ ቅኔን፣ ተረትና ምሳሌውን፣ ቀልድና ተረቡን፣ አሽሙርና የቃላት ስንጠቃውን አሳምረን ያወቅን የሶማሌ ተወላጆች ከዚህ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም። የሶማሌ ልጅ በኢትዮጵያ ሀገሩ ጉዳይ በደንብ ከዳር ወደ መሀል መጥቶ ከሌሎች ኢትዮጵያውያን ጋር ጥቅሙን ለማስከበር፣ መብቱን ለመጠየቅ፣ የራሱን የሚገባውን ከሀገር ሀብት ድርሻውን በአፅዕኖት አስረግጦ ለመከራከር የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ያስፈልገዋል ።

የሚያስፈልገው ለእራሱ ጥቅም ሲል እንጂ ለማንም አይደለም። አማርኛን ስላወቀ ሶማሌነቱ አይጠፋበትም፣ እንዲህ የሚያስቡ ሰዎች ለፖለቲካ ትርፍ ትውልድ የነሱን ሀቲት ብቻ እንዲሰማ ፣ ዞርዞር ብሎ ታሪክ እንዳያይ የሚፈልጉ ናቸው።

ቋንቋ መግባቢያ ነው። ብንችል ሰማንያ ቋንቋን ብናውቅ ጥሩ ነበር። ሰው ቋንቋን ካወቀ ስራን፣ ቢዝነስን እና እድሉን ከማስፋት አልፎ ጠላት እንኳ ቢኖረው ቋንቋን በማወቁ ከሞት ይተርፋል። ታሪክ ማወቅ ጥሩ ነው። አብርሆት ይሰጣል። በኢማም አህመድ (አህመድ ግራኝ) ጊዜ ሰራዊቱ የንጉሱን ካንፕ ሾልኮ ለመሰለል ስለፈለገ አህመድ ሶማሌ ወታደሮችን አማርኛ እንዲማሩ አድርጎ ነበር። በጥቂት ወራት ለምደው የንጉሱን የካምፕ ጠባቂዎች “እየህ ቤቶች፣ እንደምን ዋላችሁ” እያሉ አልፈው ሰልለው ይወጡ ነበር።

ይህ ታሪክ ነው። ከዚህ ኢማም በታች የሚያስቡ ሰዎች አሁን መኖራቸው በጣም ይገርማል። በ1535 አካባቢ ሰው የቋንቋን ጥቅም አውቆ ሀገር ሲመራ፣ አሁን ሀገርን የመምራት እድሉን ያገኘ አካል እንዴት ስለቋንቋ እንዲህ የተዛባ አመለካከት ይኖረዋል ። በጣም ነው የሚገርመኝ።

DefendTheTruth
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Re: ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)

Post by DefendTheTruth » 16 Dec 2020, 16:19

kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.

Wedi
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Re: ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)

Post by Wedi » 16 Dec 2020, 16:25

Why did you eyes become Red?

What kibramlak said about president Mustefie is 100% right unlike your narrow and tribal mind. You are one of those disgrace people.

DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:19
kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.

Abere
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Re: ከአማርኛ ቋንቋ አተረፍን እንጂ አልጎደለብንም....! (ሙስጠፋ ዑመር፣ የሶማሊ ም/ርዕሰ መስተዳድር)

Post by Abere » 16 Dec 2020, 16:42

DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:19
kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.

It would be always good to learn anything under the sun, but one does not the luxury of time and resources to try everything. Unfortunately, we are living and working under constraints - be it priority in beating time , resource , opportunity constraints. It is not a beauty contest, it is about the extend of applicability and utility of what one should invest. You don't have to shop something as a substitute for a function you already have . That is waste of time and resource. More importantly, no one should another person to invest his time or money something he does not need it in everyday. A language that is kicked out of market because of the force of the objective invisible hand(market's demand - supply rule) will not be prevailing in the market again. Gedu Andargchew , in fact, was poor in his English language (like the TPLF's Tiger Ambassador to Israel or Aba Dulla)- that was the liability cost him his foreign minister post. Other than would be a luxury choice, not a necessity. The Somali Region president is very intelligent. No kid or no one is forced to learn any tribal language other than the national language in the developed world , but if kids choose to learn any other language they can choose otherwise no body cares other than focusing on a national language. ይኸ የኦነግ ሴራ ነው የኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ አስገድዶ ኦሮምኛ ቋንቋን ከዳዴ አውጥቶ ገና አሳድጎ የግድ እርዱን ዓይነት። ጥቅም የለውም 1 ሺ ዓመት ለማደግ ጊዜ የሚፈጅ ቋንቋ ቼቼ ተብሎ ከዚያ በኋላ ዓለም ሲቀየር እን ዴ ገና ኤክስፓየርድ የሆነ ነገር ይዞ ግዙ ገዛዜ ማለት ነው። አገሪቷ መዋዕለ ሀብቷን ልታጠፋበት የሚችሉ በርካታ የዳቦ እና የኢኮኖሚ ችግሮች አሏት - ይኸ የእነ በቀለ ገርባ ችግር ነው።

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 16 Dec 2020, 17:08

Abere wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:42
DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:19
kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.

It would be always good to learn anything under the sun, but one does not the luxury of time and resources to try everything. Unfortunately, we are living and working under constraints - be it priority in beating time , resource , opportunity constraints. It is not a beauty contest, it is about the extend of applicability and utility of what one should invest. You don't have to shop something as a substitute for a function you already have . That is waste of time and resource. More importantly, no one should another person to invest his time or money something he does not need it in everyday. A language that is kicked out of market because of the force of the objective invisible hand(market's demand - supply rule) will not be prevailing in the market again. Gedu Andargchew , in fact, was poor in his English language (like the TPLF's Tiger Ambassador to Israel or Aba Dulla)- that was the liability cost him his foreign minister post. Other than would be a luxury choice, not a necessity. The Somali Region president is very intelligent. No kid or no one is forced to learn any tribal language other than the national language in the developed world , but if kids choose to learn any other language they can choose otherwise no body cares other than focusing on a national language. ይኸ የኦነግ ሴራ ነው የኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ አስገድዶ ኦሮምኛ ቋንቋን ከዳዴ አውጥቶ ገና አሳድጎ የግድ እርዱን ዓይነት። ጥቅም የለውም 1 ሺ ዓመት ለማደግ ጊዜ የሚፈጅ ቋንቋ ቼቼ ተብሎ ከዚያ በኋላ ዓለም ሲቀየር እን ዴ ገና ኤክስፓየርድ የሆነ ነገር ይዞ ግዙ ገዛዜ ማለት ነው። አገሪቷ መዋዕለ ሀብቷን ልታጠፋበት የሚችሉ በርካታ የዳቦ እና የኢኮኖሚ ችግሮች አሏት - ይኸ የእነ በቀለ ገርባ ችግር ነው።
Amharic is an official language of Ethiopia, while Afan Oromo and many others in the country, including Amharic itself, are national language of the country.

"A national language is a language that has some connection—de facto or de jure—with a nation. There is little consistency in the use of this term. One or more languages spoken as first languages in the territory of a country may be referred to informally or designated in legislation as national languages of the country. National languages are mentioned in over 150 world constitutions."

For your comparison here below also a definition of an official language;

"An official language, also called state language, is a language given a special status in a particular country, state, or other jurisdiction. Typically a country's official language refers to the language used in government (judiciary, legislature, administration).[1] The term "official language" does not typically refer to the language used by a people or country, but by its government.[2][3]"

Both references taken from Wikipedia.

Every people in the country are entitled to use their own language to go after their businesses and should never be denied that right in the future Ethiopia.

If it is luxury for you to learn a national language of the country, which is spoken by more than 50 million citizens, then the choice is yours, but never whine when people demand from you to be in a position to communicate with them in a language they understand in their home.

That is as simple as such, I think.

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Post by Dawi » 16 Dec 2020, 17:33

DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:19
kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.
Defend ተረጋጋ!


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Post by Abere » 16 Dec 2020, 17:47

DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 17:08
Abere wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:42
DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:19
kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.

It would be always good to learn anything under the sun, but one does not the luxury of time and resources to try everything. Unfortunately, we are living and working under constraints - be it priority in beating time , resource , opportunity constraints. It is not a beauty contest, it is about the extend of applicability and utility of what one should invest. You don't have to shop something as a substitute for a function you already have . That is waste of time and resource. More importantly, no one should another person to invest his time or money something he does not need it in everyday. A language that is kicked out of market because of the force of the objective invisible hand(market's demand - supply rule) will not be prevailing in the market again. Gedu Andargchew , in fact, was poor in his English language (like the TPLF's Tiger Ambassador to Israel or Aba Dulla)- that was the liability cost him his foreign minister post. Other than would be a luxury choice, not a necessity. The Somali Region president is very intelligent. No kid or no one is forced to learn any tribal language other than the national language in the developed world , but if kids choose to learn any other language they can choose otherwise no body cares other than focusing on a national language. ይኸ የኦነግ ሴራ ነው የኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ አስገድዶ ኦሮምኛ ቋንቋን ከዳዴ አውጥቶ ገና አሳድጎ የግድ እርዱን ዓይነት። ጥቅም የለውም 1 ሺ ዓመት ለማደግ ጊዜ የሚፈጅ ቋንቋ ቼቼ ተብሎ ከዚያ በኋላ ዓለም ሲቀየር እን ዴ ገና ኤክስፓየርድ የሆነ ነገር ይዞ ግዙ ገዛዜ ማለት ነው። አገሪቷ መዋዕለ ሀብቷን ልታጠፋበት የሚችሉ በርካታ የዳቦ እና የኢኮኖሚ ችግሮች አሏት - ይኸ የእነ በቀለ ገርባ ችግር ነው።
Amharic is an official language of Ethiopia, while Afan Oromo and many others in the country, including Amharic itself, are national language of the country.

"A national language is a language that has some connection—de facto or de jure—with a nation. There is little consistency in the use of this term. One or more languages spoken as first languages in the territory of a country may be referred to informally or designated in legislation as national languages of the country. National languages are mentioned in over 150 world constitutions."

For your comparison here below also a definition of an official language;

"An official language, also called state language, is a language given a special status in a particular country, state, or other jurisdiction. Typically a country's official language refers to the language used in government (judiciary, legislature, administration).[1] The term "official language" does not typically refer to the language used by a people or country, but by its government.[2][3]"

Both references taken from Wikipedia.

Every people in the country are entitled to use their own language to go after their businesses and should never be denied that right in the future Ethiopia.

If it is luxury for you to learn a national language of the country, which is spoken by more than 50 million citizens, then the choice is yours, but never whine when people demand from you to be in a position to communicate with them in a language they understand in their home.

That is as simple as such, I think.
''...then the choice is yours, but never whine when people demand from you to be in a position to communicate with them in a language they understand in their home." , Well, this is like one of a party refusing in a seller - buyer transaction not to accept the federal legal currency, Ethiopian Birr. You can't say you will not takea100 Birr note, because your are selling in Sidama or Wollegga. You can speak your Sidaminga or Oromigna but you can't force the other person communicating in Amharic to speak your language, because the Federal government language supersedes any provincial languages even if they are the state language. The federal languages supersedes provincial languages that is why Amharic should be or has been a mandatory language given at every school. More importantly, this is a language already spoken by more than 95% of the population of Ethiopia. This is almost the universal language of the country, you can not waste resource to grow an other language from scratch. It i against the law of economics and practice of a sovereign country.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 17 Dec 2020, 07:06

Dawi wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 17:33


Defend ተረጋጋ!

Dawi,

እኔን ለማረጋጋት ወደ ኮምኒዝም ጥግም ሄድክ?

የጨነቀው እርጉዝ ያገባል ይባል የለም?

እዉነትን መፍራት የትም አያደርስም፣ እዉነትን አትፍራ ወንድም።

turn to any corner, the quote attributed to Ato Mustafe is not in support of your claims or wishes.

If anything he is encouraging people like you to start to learn different languages of the country, if you want to be fit in the future Ethiopia.

How many times should you need to be told that unity doesn't mean uniformity፣ (አንድነት ማለት አንድ አይነትነት ማለት አይደልም)?

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Post by Dawi » 18 Dec 2020, 03:31

DefendTheTruth wrote:
17 Dec 2020, 07:06
Dawi wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 17:33


Defend ተረጋጋ!

Dawi,

እኔን ለማረጋጋት ወደ ኮምኒዝም ጥግም ሄድክ?

የጨነቀው እርጉዝ ያገባል ይባል የለም?

እዉነትን መፍራት የትም አያደርስም፣ እዉነትን አትፍራ ወንድም።

turn to any corner, the quote attributed to Ato Mustafe is not in support of your claims or wishes.

If anything he is encouraging people like you to start to learn different languages of the country, if you want to be fit in the future Ethiopia.

How many times should you need to be told that unity doesn't mean uniformity፣ (አንድነት ማለት አንድ አይነትነት ማለት አይደልም)?
Defend,

I found Mengistu's views on Amharic language & Ethiopian Unity sound.

I am not but, if I were some influential member of an Amhara organization at this moment, I would suggest to adapt the Somali language as an elective in High Schools in "Amhara" State. That is in honor of brother Mustafe! 8) Do you think an "Amhara"/Ethiopian would hesitate to invest in Somali State today? Think again!

The President of Somali came out to speak the truth in times of these challenging days for "Amharic" cause. He will always be remembered!

I am surprised you didn't see that side of the picture rather, you attacked kibramlak's appreciation of Mustafe. What is up with that?

FYI, when congratulating Mustafe's view, no one opposed of learning other Ethiopian languages; I am sorry to say, it seems to me, you guys as always, don't fail to shoot the sh!tt when you hear the word Amhara/Amharic!

Listen to the following to understand what I mean.

Cheers!


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Post by kibramlak » 18 Dec 2020, 04:57

Defend The Tribe aka Galls tribe,

The difference between you and me is of IQ level on analytical thinking. Your's is abnormally low. Dont blame yourself, its more of genetic. Your silly mind reads unwritten, which means you read your own mind only. No one said here others should not use or speak with their own languages. Its your right to speak whichever language you want. Speaking language comes by will and by need.

For a country like Ethiopia, in order to stand as one country, it needs to have a means of common communication while building its diverse cultural settings, including languages. Our diversity is our beauty that many countries dont have. @Dawi's video posts can help you to understand on what I mean. As was tplf, your gaIIa tribe has got a big problem to accept this reality. Your problem is incurable as you suffer from inferiority complex.

Mr moron, why do you think the world primary language is English? Do you think the population of the tiny England is bigger than other countries population combined ? Mr moron, do you know that gallas are still minority in number ? Mr. moron, what plan do you have for those who doesnt speak galgna if they dont want it or they dont need it for a number of reasons ? Let me tell you one very bad news for you: the huge number of gallas being sellted in Addis as per the social engineering plan of gallas are now learning Amharic, with which some are getting fluent. Why do you think thats happening? I dont think it is the will as they are politically motivated settlers. It is because they need it to communicate with others and to make their livings. Since stupldity has no limit, maybe you thought galls bekele gerba's insinuations would come true. Tribalists are always tribalists. They can't see things beyong their noses.

Tribalists can't lead their own trible, let alone a diverse Ethiopia. Because they can't see things beyond their trible and all they function is with emotions rather than reasons. Reasoning requires critical thinking and analytical skills while emotions require only being like animals. Animals can't reason out. So are tribalists.

DefendTheTruth wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 16:19
kibramlak wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 14:55
This is a man of full confidence, a true color of Ethiopia, a true color of his people. God protect him from evil tribalists.
What an idiot?

When it comes to you on learning a different language of the country, then it is about "tribalism" because you have got Amharic, according to your claim. The wise citizens of the country, including the former President of Amhara region, Ato Gedu Andergachew, on the other hand said they were left in darkness, for not having tried to learn other languages in the country.

PM Abiy Ahmed is a case in point for showing in practice how it is advantageous to be multilingual for the person himself in a country like Ethiopia.

And what obbo Mustafe said is not to encourage your kinds, but to encourage the open-minded citizens and embrace Ethiopia and Ethiopianism.

You a loser!

Inde ante yelaw dedeb gin sewun mesadeb iwqet yemeselahal, tinish sew.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 18 Dec 2020, 17:50

Dawi wrote:
18 Dec 2020, 03:31
DefendTheTruth wrote:
17 Dec 2020, 07:06
Dawi wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 17:33


Defend ተረጋጋ!

Dawi,

እኔን ለማረጋጋት ወደ ኮምኒዝም ጥግም ሄድክ?

የጨነቀው እርጉዝ ያገባል ይባል የለም?

እዉነትን መፍራት የትም አያደርስም፣ እዉነትን አትፍራ ወንድም።

turn to any corner, the quote attributed to Ato Mustafe is not in support of your claims or wishes.

If anything he is encouraging people like you to start to learn different languages of the country, if you want to be fit in the future Ethiopia.

How many times should you need to be told that unity doesn't mean uniformity፣ (አንድነት ማለት አንድ አይነትነት ማለት አይደልም)?
Defend,

I found Mengistu's views on Amharic language & Ethiopian Unity sound.

I am not but, if I were some influential member of an Amhara organization at this moment, I would suggest to adapt the Somali language as an elective in High Schools in "Amhara" State. That is in honor of brother Mustafe! 8) Do you think an "Amhara"/Ethiopian would hesitate to invest in Somali State today? Think again!

The President of Somali came out to speak the truth in times of these challenging days for "Amharic" cause. He will always be remembered!

I am surprised you didn't see that side of the picture rather, you attacked kibramlak's appreciation of Mustafe. What is up with that?

FYI, when congratulating Mustafe's view, no one opposed of learning other Ethiopian languages; I am sorry to say, it seems to me, you guys as always, don't fail to shoot the sh!tt when you hear the word Amhara/Amharic!

Listen to the following to understand what I mean.

Cheers!

Dawi,

so that means you are prepared to learn an additional language to honor someone but not yet to encourage the unity of Ethiopia in diveristy?
I don't think anyone asked you to learn a different language in your own kilil, but as far as you are out of your own kilil, then they are demanding from you firmly to speak to them in the language they understand you well.

Coming to them to get some service or advantage, like the investment you are talking about here as an example, and trying to impose your own language on them instead of you trying to learning their own language and calling them "gemed-af" for their failing to understand you in that language well should be the thing of the past, my friend.

I came to someone's land and the first thing I tried to gain was to learn and be able to communicate with the people i became part of. They made latter even mandatory to learn their language, is something wrong with that in your view?

I already said to Abera before that if you think you don't need the language, then you shouldn't be forced to learn as well. Oromia region in Ethiopia is a power house of the economy and market of the whole country and beyond. If you think Oromia needs you more than you need Oromia, then you don't have to be forced to learn. (When I write "you" in this message, it is not meant a definite pronoun, rather supposed to be an indefinite one).

"chew le rasih sitil tafit, alebelazia dengay new belo yewerewuruhal" alu siteritu.
(i don't have an amharic keyboard on this device, sorry.)

Oromia can't be taken back to where it was before 50 years or so, in my view.

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