BTW, what did the weyane tell Mesfin to change his mind ? What makes Mesfin think that Isayas is the worst enemy of Eritrea ever ? The weyane army can not fight Eritrea under its banners. But, expect, weyane soldiers to join the fight under the guise of Eritrean anti government forces. If that happens, Somalia is all over again. Unless of course, the Eritrean government opens political space for Eritreans which is unlikely under Isayas. Isayas' motto has always been, beat them and beat them good. Shoot them a couple of times after they are dead.Did you know what Isayas and Abbiy signed, that is hidden from the people of Eritrea ?" " Assab is leased to Ethiopia for 99 years to start effectively five years after Isayas goes to heaven.![]()
Your fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters bled to bring independece only to be given back to Ethiopia on a silver platter .
Now, you want to run away overseas so that you can live comfortably. Don't worry about killing innocent Eritreans in Sawa, the war is going to be swift. Isays did it to Jebha. Brothers and sisters killed eachother on both sides of the front. Young man, it is your responsibility. A lot of innocent heroic blood has been paid to liberate the country. You are just going to sit idle and watch only for the independence to be squandered. The martyrs' are moving under their cemeteries
Mesfin Hagos' recuitment tool
There are plenty Sawa trained Eritrean refugees in Tigray. Almost all of them look for the day to leave for Europe or America. They are fed up with war. But, how can Mesfin Hagos recruit from this crowd. For one thing, Mesfin is a war hero. He never had a battle he led. face defeat. But, this is a possible recruitment tool. Here is an enticing question.

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BTW,
Come September, the weyanes will stop recognizing the Abiy government. Abiy has threatened the Weyanes if they do so. Rumor has it that Tigray will begin Article 39 process. Will Abiy strangle them economically or would he start war against them. Would Isayas send his troops to help Abiy crash the weyanes ? or worse yet, would Abiy start making up with the weyanes ?
Interesting indeed.
If you ask me, weyanes will not pull the article 39 card. It is hot. Sounds like Europe 1939.

Come September, the weyanes will stop recognizing the Abiy government. Abiy has threatened the Weyanes if they do so. Rumor has it that Tigray will begin Article 39 process. Will Abiy strangle them economically or would he start war against them. Would Isayas send his troops to help Abiy crash the weyanes ? or worse yet, would Abiy start making up with the weyanes ?
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Where is Sudan in your equation???
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Halafi,
I don't know. Sudan is not part of the equation. Neither is Egypt.

I don't know. Sudan is not part of the equation. Neither is Egypt.
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Re: Mesfin Hagos' recuitment tool
Sudan will be the key player and shaper of the Horn of Africa, specially for Eritrea and Ethiopia. If war breaks Sudan will be there too, already controlled Gura regions south of Metema Yohannes border of Beneshangule.
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Who're you quoting, there?
But no matter who, there's no shred of evidence Ethiopia has leased Assab- for 99 years no less. If there is, I would like to see it!
But no matter who, there's no shred of evidence Ethiopia has leased Assab- for 99 years no less. If there is, I would like to see it!
Aurorae wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 15:02There are plenty Sawa trained Eritrean refugees in Tigray. Almost all of them look for the day to leave for Europe or America. They are fed up with war. But, how can Mesfin Hagos recruit from this crowd. For one thing, Mesfin is a war hero. He never had a battle he led. face defeat. But, this is a possible recruitment tool. Here is an enticing question.BTW, what did the weyane tell Mesfin to change his mind ? What makes Mesfin think that Isayas is the worst enemy of Eritrea ever ? The weyane army can not fight Eritrea under its banners. But, expect, weyane soldiers to join the fight under the guise of Eritrean anti government forces. If that happens, Somalia is all over again. Unless of course, the Eritrean government opens political space for Eritreans which is unlikely under Isayas. Isayas' motto has always been, beat them and beat them good. Shoot them a couple of times after they are dead.Did you know what Isayas and Abbiy signed, that is hidden from the people of Eritrea ?" " Assab is leased to Ethiopia for 99 years to start effectively five years after Isayas goes to heaven.![]()
Your fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters bled to bring independece only to be given back to Ethiopia on a silver platter .
Now, you want to run away overseas so that you can live comfortably. Don't worry about killing innocent Eritreans in Sawa, the war is going to be swift. Isays did it to Jebha. Brothers and sisters killed eachother on both sides of the front. Young man, it is your responsibility. A lot of innocent heroic blood has been paid to liberate the country. You are just going to sit idle and watch only for the independence to be squandered. The martyrs' are moving under their cemeteries
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There is no evidence Zmeselo this is the problem with these people, all they do is spread idiotic woyane dreams. I mean woyane scum fighting under Mesfin Hagos
? Not only would that make Mesfin Hagos among the worse traitors in Eritrea's history but any woyane militia heading to Eritrea isn't going to make Eritrea into Somalia they're going to their graves. Besides, Mesfin Hagos is an old man who has been out of the loop for decades he isn't going to command anything all he has accomplish is destroy his own legacy.
Zmeselo wrote: ↑18 Jul 2020, 03:15Who're you quoting, there?
But no matter who, there's no shred of evidence Ethiopia has leased Assab- for 99 years no less. If there is, I would like to see it!
Aurorae wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 15:02There are plenty Sawa trained Eritrean refugees in Tigray. Almost all of them look for the day to leave for Europe or America. They are fed up with war. But, how can Mesfin Hagos recruit from this crowd. For one thing, Mesfin is a war hero. He never had a battle he led. face defeat. But, this is a possible recruitment tool. Here is an enticing question.BTW, what did the weyane tell Mesfin to change his mind ? What makes Mesfin think that Isayas is the worst enemy of Eritrea ever ? The weyane army can not fight Eritrea under its banners. But, expect, weyane soldiers to join the fight under the guise of Eritrean anti government forces. If that happens, Somalia is all over again. Unless of course, the Eritrean government opens political space for Eritreans which is unlikely under Isayas. Isayas' motto has always been, beat them and beat them good. Shoot them a couple of times after they are dead.Did you know what Isayas and Abbiy signed, that is hidden from the people of Eritrea ?" " Assab is leased to Ethiopia for 99 years to start effectively five years after Isayas goes to heaven.![]()
Your fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters bled to bring independece only to be given back to Ethiopia on a silver platter .
Now, you want to run away overseas so that you can live comfortably. Don't worry about killing innocent Eritreans in Sawa, the war is going to be swift. Isays did it to Jebha. Brothers and sisters killed eachother on both sides of the front. Young man, it is your responsibility. A lot of innocent heroic blood has been paid to liberate the country. You are just going to sit idle and watch only for the independence to be squandered. The martyrs' are moving under their cemeteries
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Mesfin hagos should not cooperate with the TPLF. What will he gain from it. Imagine he does and he and a group of tigrayans overthrow isias. What could possibly happen inside Eritrea. Maybe the demographics of Eritrea might change in favor of tigrayans this would be dissaterous for Eritrea. I know for the Eritrean opposition its very difficult situation. Because they can't use Ethiopia as a way to change Eritrea.
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Zmeselo,
Hopefully not.
Nizzy, why don't you read the context before you fly off the handle rather than generalizing and make ....... of yourself. First, it is written full of humor. Second, what is quoted to Mesfin is what could be what weyane told him and as the title suggests what Mesfin would say to his recruits. Capisci ? Nizzy, who are
BTW, it is not Mesfin's character to do what he has done. Labelling Isayas, the worst enemy of the Eritrean people is some serious accusation he did. Meaning, what did they tell him to say such a thing ? He is seriously mad at Isayas enough to start civil war. God protect Eritrea. The kind people of Eritrea have been betrayed the worst possible way.
When the dust settles, Eritrea will never be the same. Eritreans will never trust each other again. 
Hopefully not.
Nizzy, why don't you read the context before you fly off the handle rather than generalizing and make ....... of yourself. First, it is written full of humor. Second, what is quoted to Mesfin is what could be what weyane told him and as the title suggests what Mesfin would say to his recruits. Capisci ? Nizzy, who are
by the way ? Who is divisive here ? For what ? To prolong the misery of the Eritrean people. Fifty years is not enough ? Just kill them for good !they
Re: Mesfin Hagos' recuitment tool
Aurorae wrote: ↑17 Jul 2020, 15:02There are plenty Sawa trained Eritrean refugees in Tigray. Almost all of them look for the day to leave for Europe or America. They are fed up with war. But, how can Mesfin Hagos recruit from this crowd. For one thing, Mesfin is a war hero. He never had a battle he led. face defeat. But, this is a possible recruitment tool. Here is an enticing question. BTW, what did the weyane tell Mesfin to change his mind ? What makes Mesfin think that Isayas is the worst enemy of Eritrea ever ? The weyane army can not fight Eritrea under its banners. But, expect, weyane soldiers to join the fight under the guise of Eritrean anti government forces. If that happens, Somalia is all over again. Unless of course, the Eritrean government opens political space for Eritreans which is unlikely under Isayas. Isayas' motto has always been, beat them and beat them good. Shoot them a couple of times after they are dead.![]()
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First of all, the official version of, what we heard from Mesfin is, that he was on a visit to tigrai, to study the situation not representing any organisation or institution but himself. And he is not a talkative person, for the sake of talking. If you understand, what I mean. But, some desperadoes are making out of it, a story of their own making.
And there are of course, deep concern, from the Eritrean government side as well. The main concern they have at the moment is, what if, the Woyane administration, goes ahead and invite the central government, to begin with demarcating the border, according to the final and binding court decision. And make it, clear, that they have nothing to do with the stalling of border demarcation.
At the same time, having influential people like Gen. Mesfin Hagos, who has enormous influence on the military, will definitely be, a headache for president Isseyas's ambition to stay in power by keeping all youths in indefinite military services and this in return will change the political climate in the country for the better.
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Eritrea,
Your suggestion is much better. But, I heard that Mesfin has moved to Tigray permanently. Mesfin is not a politician. He is very reserved, He will not lie to you. But, he is very angry. The only person who can give immediate peace to Eritreans is Isayas. But, that is not Isayas. What allowed him to stay in power for fifty years is, he would never settle for anything less than what he wants, regardless of the price. He will shoot it out to the very end.
Your suggestion is much better. But, I heard that Mesfin has moved to Tigray permanently. Mesfin is not a politician. He is very reserved, He will not lie to you. But, he is very angry. The only person who can give immediate peace to Eritreans is Isayas. But, that is not Isayas. What allowed him to stay in power for fifty years is, he would never settle for anything less than what he wants, regardless of the price. He will shoot it out to the very end.
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I have no idea if he decided to live in Tigrai permanently but that can be the case because of various other reasons. All I can say is, yes he is not happy with what is going on in Eritrea. But, who is not at this moment one may ask. But anger and desperation can not solve our problems. Calmness and longterm strategies is. At the end, when everything is on place those who will end our pain are those who are going blind and deaf despite they have eyes and ears that can see and hears. Because, except, some moral sellouts no one in his right mind would allow his brothers and sisters who sacrificed their adult life to liberate their people and country be thrown in underground hellish prison for life without seen one day in court. And allow the country into the path of hopeless to appease one single power hungry individual. So what we have to see and expect is the way Robert Mugabe was said goodbye with.Aurorae wrote: ↑18 Jul 2020, 10:16Eritrea,
Your suggestion is much better. But, I heard that Mesfin has moved to Tigray permanently. Mesfin is not a politician. He is very reserved, He will not lie to you. But, he is very angry. The only person who can give immediate peace to Eritreans is Isayas. But, that is not Isayas. What allowed him to stay in power for fifty years is, he would never settle for anything less than what he wants, regardless of the price. He will shoot it out to the very end.
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Eritrea,
I see it the way you see it. But, Mesfin feels far more responsible for the system that is put in Eritrea. He spent all of his adulthood and more fighting to liberate the Eritrean people whom he loved though thick and thin. He sacrificed thousands of young Eritreans to death as martyrs. He left a lot of elder mothers without their precious children. Twenty nine years since its independence Eritrea lost a third of its population. Eritrea is one of the very poorest countries in the world. Where is our pride ? Stuff like this can push anyone to hell. Long term strategies .... How long ? That is what he is facing. He has no time left for long time strategies. He has been through civil war. He knows the pain. He also knows how devious the weyanes are .
I see it the way you see it. But, Mesfin feels far more responsible for the system that is put in Eritrea. He spent all of his adulthood and more fighting to liberate the Eritrean people whom he loved though thick and thin. He sacrificed thousands of young Eritreans to death as martyrs. He left a lot of elder mothers without their precious children. Twenty nine years since its independence Eritrea lost a third of its population. Eritrea is one of the very poorest countries in the world. Where is our pride ? Stuff like this can push anyone to hell. Long term strategies .... How long ? That is what he is facing. He has no time left for long time strategies. He has been through civil war. He knows the pain. He also knows how devious the weyanes are .
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Aurorae wrote: ↑18 Jul 2020, 12:57Eritrea,
I see it the way you see it. But, Mesfin feels far more responsible for the system that is put in Eritrea. He spent all of his adulthood and more fighting to liberate the Eritrean people whom he loved though thick and thin. He sacrificed thousands of young Eritreans to death as martyrs. He left a lot of elder mothers without their precious children. Twenty nine years since its independence Eritrea lost a third of its population. Eritrea is one of the very poorest countries in the world. Where is our pride ? Stuff like this can push anyone to hell. Long term strategies .... How long ? That is what he is facing. He has no time left for long time strategies. He has been through civil war. He knows the pain. He also knows how devious the weyanes are .![]()
I agree with you, he can feel responsible for the fates of thousands of our brothers and sisters and the situation of their families but for his defence he should understand that he did managed to sense the fishy management of the president's office and made the right decision early in the process.
But calmness and long term strategies is a must to garner enough support by every segment of the Eritrean society. All begin with starting a strong civic society something that we are very experienced at.
As far as woyane is concerned. Giving their past track, it is extremely difficult to trust them. What they say in the morning can turn to be totally different in the evening. But, if they use the power they have wisely they can help each other to get what they want without anyone paying any life in the process.
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Re: Mesfin Hagos' recuitment tool
Interesting, who said Mesfin is the only one responsible for the future of Eritrea if he has no time left for long term strategies:lol:. If he is a war hero, let him write a book which describes his perspective of the armed struggle and then retire well. His book may be more valuable to Eritreans than his emotion-driven strategies...
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Rather than getting emotional perhaps you should get what I'm saying. "They" arepeople who perpetrate woyane propaganda people who go and work for TPLFites thats who they are, it shouldn't concern you if you don't fall under that category. I'd think that since you were quoting someone it doesn't reflect upon you unless you believe the quote to be true I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you didn't believe it hence "they" instead of "Aurorae".
Furthermore, this really doesn't require any serious analysis. If Mesfin is in Tigray saying what woyane wants to hear it means he is bought. He has no capacity to start any kind of civil war, him traveling to Tigray only shows his and woyane's desperation. He gambled and he lost, a man of his age should've simply seen the writing on the wall and live out his life in peace with his dignity intact not side with woyane when they're on their way to the grave. Nothing will come of this.
Furthermore, this really doesn't require any serious analysis. If Mesfin is in Tigray saying what woyane wants to hear it means he is bought. He has no capacity to start any kind of civil war, him traveling to Tigray only shows his and woyane's desperation. He gambled and he lost, a man of his age should've simply seen the writing on the wall and live out his life in peace with his dignity intact not side with woyane when they're on their way to the grave. Nothing will come of this.
Aurorae wrote: ↑18 Jul 2020, 09:02Zmeselo,
Hopefully not.![]()
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Nizzy, why don't you read the context before you fly off the handle rather than generalizing and make ....... of yourself. First, it is written full of humor. Second, what is quoted to Mesfin is what could be what weyane told him and as the title suggests what Mesfin would say to his recruits. Capisci ? Nizzy, who areby the way ? Who is divisive here ? For what ? To prolong the misery of the Eritrean people. Fifty years is not enough ? Just kill them for good !theyBTW, it is not Mesfin's character to do what he has done. Labelling Isayas, the worst enemy of the Eritrean people is some serious accusation he did. Meaning, what did they tell him to say such a thing ? He is seriously mad at Isayas enough to start civil war. God protect Eritrea. The kind people of Eritrea have been betrayed the worst possible way.
When the dust settles, Eritrea will never be the same. Eritreans will never trust each other again.
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DD, where TF do you know the dedeb Mesfin to know that he wouldn't lie to you. Mesfin is just a glorified foot soldier and in the future just keep to what you know.
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Justina wrote,

Justina, Repeat that 1000 times before you go to sleep at night, then you will truely believe in it.DD, where TF do you know the dedeb Mesfin to know that he wouldn't lie to you. Mesfin is just a glorified foot soldier and in the future just keep to what you know.]
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Nizzy,
Emotional you say,
On the contrary, you are talking to a cool headed down to earth person.
Bla bla .... Can you express your thought in a couple of sentences . I would appreciate it. Really!
Be careful for logical errors. You have gotten too many of them.
Make yourself believe that.
Emotional you say,
Bla bla .... Can you express your thought in a couple of sentences . I would appreciate it. Really!
Wishful thinking.Rather than getting emotional perhaps you should get what I'm saying. "They" arepeople who perpetrate woyane propaganda people who go and work for TPLFites thats who they are, it shouldn't concern you if you don't fall under that category. I'd think that since you were quoting someone it doesn't reflect upon you unless you believe the quote to be true I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you didn't believe it hence "they" instead of "Aurorae".
Furthermore, this really doesn't require any serious analysis.If Mesfin is in Tigray saying what woyane wants to hear it means he is bought. He has no capacity to start any kind of civil war, him traveling to Tigray only shows his and woyane's desperation. He gambled and he lost, a man of his age should've simply seen the writing on the wall and live out his life in peace with his dignity intact not side with woyane when they're on their way to the grave. Nothing will come of this.