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Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Andertan » 22 Mar 2020, 10:23

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Fed_Up » 22 Mar 2020, 10:25

Jil ayemuT endiachaweT alu.

Another attention hoè
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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Andertan » 22 Mar 2020, 10:26

Guhafe Askari Cockroach Eater Tigrians are Ethiopians! :lol: :lol:

Now go watch the video again Cockroach Qorchame :lol: :lol:

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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Andertan » 22 Mar 2020, 10:31

My Comrade Present The Askaris are now being sold to the Arabs Wedimedhin will always be Ethiopian :lol: :lol: :lol:




present wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 10:27
They love their Italian master, man.

Why don't they love their Ethiopian master is the question? :lol:

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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Andertan » 22 Mar 2020, 10:40

Beleta Askaris showing love to there italian colonizers and wishing egypt went to war with Ethiopia

My Humble Ethiopian Brother Present as we see the collapse of there mama italia has them on there knees :lol: :lol:

Next is Egypt daddy Askari Banda Republic :lol: :lol:

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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Mar 2020, 10:41

Really? Abissinia rasses, submitting:


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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

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Post by Zmeselo » 22 Mar 2020, 10:49

The table below shows, which abissinian potentates received salaries from the Italian Colonial Government.

Name Monthly Salary in Lira
Ras Imru 1,000
Ras Hailu 40,874
Ras Seyum 22,900
Ras Gugsa 25,000
Ras Getachow 7,000
Dejach Taye 1,000
Dejach Ayalow Burru 16,000
Sultan of Aussa Mohammed Jaja 15,000
Sultan Abdullah Abba Jifar 8,000
Sultan Abba Jobir Abdullah 8,000
Dejach Hossanna Jiotte 15,000
Dejach Yohannes Jiotte 15,000
Sheik El Hogwli 25,000


(See Alberto Sbacchi, "Ethiopia Under Mussolini," page 137) similar tables of payments to all kind of Ethiopian Nobles can also be found in the same book, pages 153 and 154.

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Post by Zmeselo » 22 Mar 2020, 10:57

Emperor Yohannes signed the treaty of Hewitt that ceded Western Eritrea and all the area near the Massawa proper to Anglo-Egyptian power, in an exact format Dejach Wube was ready to hand over that same area to the French colonizers in return for the French recognizing him as preeminent chief of Highland Tigray and its environs.


As Ms Prouty recounted
Via Antonelli's courier, Menelik informed the King of Italy that he would like the Italian soldiers to occupy Asmara, in order to discourage the imperial pretensions of Mengesha Yohannes (the son of Emperor Yohannes).
There after,
added Menelik,
God will give me the throne that for many years I have had the right to have.
(See Prouty, page 61)

Menelik assigned Ras Tessema, with his 10,000 troops, to support the French colonizers in their march all the way to Central Africa. In his book "The Race to Fashoda," Historian David L. Lewis, W. E. B. Du Bois' biographer, talked at length about Ras Tessema (he spelled it as Tassama) and his French connection extensively (See pages 133-135, 193, 211-212).

Ras Alula, the Hero of all Ethiopians did his bid:
You want the country to the River Mereb (meaning the whole Eritrea) to cultivate your gardens, to build your houses, to construct your churches? We can give it to you [And not to Menelik.]. Let the Italian soldiers come to Adwa, I shall come to meet them like friends.
And in trying to persuade the Italians not to make friendship with Menelik, Alula begged the Italians by saying,
And you, why do you need to look for distant friend? We are neighbors (meaning Eritrea and Tigray) and can serve each other. You went the road to be open and I want the road to be open. You should guard to the Mereb River and I will guard it to Gondar and even beyond Gondar. We must be able to go to the coast to trade in order that our country (meaning Tigray) would flourish, with the help of God, Menelik is too far to be of any use to you. Let us make friendship between us.
(See, Haggai Erlich, "Ras Alula,", page 164)



present wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 10:42
Oh yeah. He is chillin like a villain. He sold enough ascaris to the Arabs. He is done. What do expect from a grandson of Atse Yohanes, our beloved king!








Andertan wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 10:31
My Comrade Present The Askaris are now being sold to the Arabs Wedimedhin will always be Ethiopian :lol: :lol: :lol:




present wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 10:27
They love their Italian master, man.

Why don't they love their Ethiopian master is the question? :lol:

Andertan wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 10:23
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Zmeselo » 22 Mar 2020, 11:02

To top it all, Eritrea was further weakened after Ras Alula's honchos with the blessing of the Ras conspired and incarcerated one of Eritrea's able Chiefs, Rasi Woldemichael Solomon of Hazega, and the aim was to be able to maintain their hold in the Eritrea highlands. By the 1890s even those Eritreans who dared to fight Italian colonialism, like Lij Beyene Biru of the Adi Quala area, were incarcerated by Ras Alula, all in the hope that the Italians will be happy with this act of imprisonment and in return they would respond with the much needed aid; supposedly expected to enable Alula & Co to save their beloved Tigray from ending up under the grip of Menelik.

At one point, Alula cleverly invited
the anti-Italian Lij Beyene for a meeting (Mr Hagai spelled it as Bayyana) and treacherously imprisoned him in the hope of getting a favor from General Baratieri who was then visiting Seraye at that time. Word got out to the castle of Ras Mengesha who was then in Mekele, and not to be outdone by Alula's contact to Baratieri, Mengesha and Ras Hagos came running to Adwa. Upon their arrival, Mengesha ordered Alula to hand over Lij Beyene to the Italians. Alula fearing that the Italians will give credit to Mengesha and not him, he refused the hand over. In response to Alula's refusal, Mengesha sent Ras Hagos with an armed escort to Alula's camp, where they took custody of the rebel and delivered him to the Italians.
(See, Haggai Erlich, pages 174 & 180)


The betrayal was not only on Lij Beyene, the Tigrean Rases also betrayed another able Eritreans chief, Bahta Hagos of Segeneyti. It is to be remembered that Bahta Hagos tried to work hand in hand with Ras Mengesha and Menelik in his resistance against the Italians and pleaded Ras Mengesha and sent him several letters in the hope Mengesha may share few rifles with him. The help never ever came (See Roy Pateman, "Eritrea", page 51-52).


if truth is to be told and as some of them openly admitted, although grudgingly, Eritrea disproportionately paid a heavy price in the fight against colonialism. In his book "Red Tears," the former Dergue official, Dawit Wolde Giorgis said,
Eritreans were the coast guards of the mainland. The major battles that are recorded in Ethiopian history except Adwa were in Eritrea and were fought by Eritreans most of the time. The battle-fields of Debaruwa, Gundet, Gura, Kufit, Saati, Dogali, and Koatit against the Sudan, Turkey, Egyptians, and the Italians are typical examples
(See "Red Tears," page 74)

He adds:
Except the one in Debaruwa, all the others were fought within less than fifty years, 1870 to 1889. Add to these numbers, those who perished in the battle of Mettema & it clearly shows what a heavy price that was to pay for a population with no more than 1.5 million souls. And by the time the Italians occupied Asmara, Eritrean highlands as well as lowlands were completely devoid of able bodies to do any meaningful defense against the coming Italians.

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Post by Zmeselo » 22 Mar 2020, 11:07

The truth is, there isn't a single battle that Ethiopians won without the heavy participation of Eritreans. Just to give few examples, Alula wouldn't have won the battle of Kufit against the Sudanese forces of Othman Dinqa, without the gallant collaboration of "BENAMIR HORSEMEN."(Mentioned elsewhere in Haggai Erlich but my information comes from, oral history, Aboy Haji Beyan, Mendefera). Similarly Rasi Woldemichael too played a substantial role in the defeat of the Egyptians at Gundet as Haggai Erlich mentioned (see page 10-12). The defeat of Gragn and his Turkish mercenary at Debaruwa was pretty much the work of Bahri Negassi Issaq. Even the most celebrated battle of Adwa, that all Ethiopians are proud of, has solid Eritrean contribution. Here is how.
If the history of the battle of Adwa is to be recounted carefully, the Italian defeat came largely as a result of an able Eritrean double agent in the Italian camp. Simply said, the outcome of the battle of Adwa would have been untenable for Menelik if it wasn't for Awalom Berhe, who, as an able spy and double agent, passed absolutely wrong information about Ethiopia's Military formation to General Debermuda and his crack brigade where he convinced them to travel to an isolated and confusing area (the valley of Mariam Shawitta) that was so far-off and a mountain apart from the center of Italian battle formation of General Albertoni. It is also true that Ras Sebhat and Hagos Teferi defected from the Italian battle formation with 500 men, where most of them were Eritreans, moments before the start of the battle which gave Menelik crucial information where to attack. Without these two timely and important information, the disastrous defeat and capture of General Albertoni brigade (the Italian main battle line of defense) was unthinkable. As it happened, Debermuda's blunder compounded Albertoni's confusion of not seeing Debermuda's brigade, turning General Barateri's (the overall commander of the Italian colonial army) battle plan into defeat, defeat into disaster, and disaster into catastrophe.
See also Anthony Mockler, "Haile Sellassie's War," page XXXI. For the over all picture of the battle, see Thomas Pakenham, "The Scramble For Africa," page 477-484).

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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Andertan » 22 Mar 2020, 11:14

Resahat bandaw

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Re: Welcome to Italia Mother of Askaris

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Mar 2020, 11:37

Well, it's expected of a thief to deny being a thief. :lol:
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Again.

We aint baria :lol: :x :lol: :lol:





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