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South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by captain_obvious » 24 Feb 2020, 07:20

As we all know, TPLF has been attempting to remodel and control the East African region with its strategy of ethnic politics aka divide and rule.
All our neighbours are no strangers to multinational politics.
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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Abdelaziz » 24 Feb 2020, 07:30

Hi Lootiew Yemane Geremeskel aka tra'nny Mesqelawit ,
Just because your Di'ck addicted Hamasenay anu'zz is scared to be federated with my anaconda does not mean federation is bad. Ye ayX MIskirwa Dimbix…. and who the hell do you think cares if cursed Hamashenays' zoomali or Zulu boyfriends bi'tch about our unique federalism? Trust me Afars, Kunamas, Bejas, Sahos, Tgres, Bilens and other dqiabat of midribeja will copy or unique federal system,,, and that is what is scaring all cursed lootiew hamashenays and their Tigraway colonizer wedimedhin berad.

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by captain_obvious » 24 Feb 2020, 07:56

YES we all know its Mekelles dream to divide Eritrea and finish it into Greater Afar, Greater Tigray, Greater Saho, Bejaland, Tigreland...

But Eritrea, Ethiopia and the whole Horn region now knows Agames great strategy. We will endure.

Look at the foul mouths individuals that belong to them;

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Ethoash » 24 Feb 2020, 08:27

captain_obvious wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 07:56
YES we all know its Mekelles dream to divide Eritrea and finish it into Greater Afar, Greater Tigray, Greater Saho, Bejaland, Tigreland...

But Eritrea, Ethiopia and the whole Horn region now knows Agames great strategy. We will endure.

Look at the foul mouths individuals that belong to them;
Ato captain_office

u r an obvious idiot it is easy to say we hate ethnic federalism but where is your alternative? in fact having divided Eritrea based on their own region would be much beneficial to all.. otherwise if u see Golden in next ten years u will not recognized them they will develop in billion fold

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by captain_obvious » 24 Feb 2020, 09:38

Ethoash wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 08:27
captain_obvious wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 07:56
YES we all know its Mekelles dream to divide Eritrea and finish it into Greater Afar, Greater Tigray, Greater Saho, Bejaland, Tigreland...

But Eritrea, Ethiopia and the whole Horn region now knows Agames great strategy. We will endure.

Look at the foul mouths individuals that belong to them;
Ato captain_office

u r an obvious idiot it is easy to say we hate ethnic federalism but where is your alternative? in fact having divided Eritrea based on their own region would be much beneficial to all.. otherwise if u see Golden in next ten years u will not recognized them they will develop in billion fold
The alternatives are many. Countries with different language communities are many Russia, India, China...

But all are avoiding the catastrophic option of creating tiny rival clans homelands.

Mark my words, Tigray will also suffer from this, it has many clans and conflicts with neighbouring regions.

Consensus is emerging and defeat is looming for TPLF, 45th anniversary wont be followed by a 46th one.
PIA has many shortcomings, but you better listen to a statesman who has outlasted both Meles and Mengistu.

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Ethoash » 24 Feb 2020, 09:53

no give me the alternatives . saying it is many doesnt cut it .. r u saying let follow Chinese method or Indian method choice one and come back to me.

trust me only Amhara hate ethnic fed. system .. ethnic fed. system doesnt mean we going have a single ethnic state if hat the case we would have 84 ethnic state but what we have is only 9 few r creating as we speak but none of them are pure one ethnic

i will repeat it only Amhara hate ethnic fed. system and they will be defeated big time. or they will be kicked out from the union..

mr. capital nonsense what is your business in Ethiopian affair ?why not mind your own business .. PIA first and foremost must be resigned before i listen to him.. his welcome was long ended ..

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by captain_obvious » 24 Feb 2020, 10:31

Ethoash wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 09:53
no give me the alternatives . saying it is many doesnt cut it .. r u saying let follow Chinese method or Indian method choice one and come back to me.

trust me only Amhara hate ethnic fed. system .. ethnic fed. system doesnt mean we going have a single ethnic state if hat the case we would have 84 ethnic state but what we have is only 9 few r creating as we speak but none of them are pure one ethnic

i will repeat it only Amhara hate ethnic fed. system and they will be defeated big time. or they will be kicked out from the union..

mr. capital nonsense what is your business in Ethiopian affair ?why not mind your own business .. PIA first and foremost must be resigned before i listen to him.. his welcome was long ended ..
The Russians for example both have a federal system balanced by a strong presidential power, that gives basic freedoms to local regions, while the national police, army, intelligence are all strong and united under the control of Moscow.

Abiy Ahmed baby steps at controlling known criminals like Getachew Assefa were met by incredible arrogance and depicted as tyranny acts. By those who supported 30 years of one-man rule in 4 Kilo, what a joke.

It is all East Africans business why ? Somalians and South Sudanese have already paid a heavy price to the TPLF sponsored ethnic politics experiment, and are fast reversing course.

Because Dedebit recklesness and greed is all driving us toward endless clan war akin to the First Congo War, aka African world war.

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 24 Feb 2020, 10:33

Ethoash, only the Amharas hate ethnic federalism argument does not convince any sensible person anymore. Have you, Ethoash, watched the Teddy concert? Those kids who were born and raised while your uncles run the show represent Ethiopia. They are the children of Amharas, Tigres, Oromos, Welytas, Dorzes, simply, the children of every ethnic groups existing in Ethiopia. What did you observe about them? They are Ethiopians. Ethiopians who obviously detest your uncles politics.

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Ethoash » 24 Feb 2020, 12:21

captain_obvious wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 10:31
Abiy Ahmed baby steps at controlling known criminals like Getachew Assefa were met by incredible arrogance and depicted as tyranny acts. By those who supported 30 years of one-man rule in 4 Kilo, what a joke.

okay captain_nonsense

this time you have a point Golden must give up Getachew Assefa but in what crime .. he did not committed the crime after the Dr. Abiy revolution... all crime before Dr. Abiy is forgiven and all player given immunity የማርያም መንግድ...

second Getachew Assefa was a man of action who saved Ethiopia from Arab springing did u ever ask what would have happened Dr. abiy was SPY MASTER DURING Arab spring ... look what Fano and Qerroo ARE DOING .. they r killing and burning Church ... Getachew Assefa tortured his victim not for his personal benefit but for nation benefit .. he was hire to do the job and he did it and no body burn church in his time everyone moving freely the whole corner of Ethiopia today u will not risk your life going to other region they might kill u if they dont like your color of your eyes..

3rd. Getachew Assefa was the boss but Dr.Abiy was second in command why single out only Getachew Assefa

4th today fano blocked the fed highway that connected the golden state and we r counting two years why not the fed. government send it army and unblocked the road or fire the regional governor for this ዘር ማጥፋት ወንጀል there r many mistake to go around but i dont think u r interested in none of them all u care is about . Getachew Assefa


5th even if u think . Getachew Assefa criminal must be facing justice then who did stop you why not go and get your man .. if u can do it in Somalia region why not do it in Tigray ...otherwise stop crying or go get your man ... አለበለዚያ ፤አታላዝንብን

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by captain_obvious » 24 Feb 2020, 12:57

Ethoash wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 12:21
captain_obvious wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 10:31
Abiy Ahmed baby steps at controlling known criminals like Getachew Assefa were met by incredible arrogance and depicted as tyranny acts. By those who supported 30 years of one-man rule in 4 Kilo, what a joke.
5th even if u think . Getachew Assefa criminal must be facing justice then who did stop you why not go and get your man .. if u can do it in Somalia region why not do it in Tigray ...otherwise stop crying or go get your man ... አለበለዚያ ፤አታላዝንብን
You seem to be unaware that TPLF arrested 40 Federal Police Anti-Terrorism Task Force members when they arrived at Mekelle Aiport in an airforce plane.
https://borkena.com/2018/08/18/tigray-r ... e-members/

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“We had to communicate with the Federal government to figure out why they came to Tigray and were made to stay until we reach common understanding with the Federal government,” he added.
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said the spokesman

When during Meles Zenawi or Desalegn rule Federal policemen were arrested by local militia ? This brazen action never seen during 30 years seem to show that TPLF has only contempt for its own Constitution.

The tiny clique thought that it was dsiplaying its might, but it rather preparing ground for the East African coalition to topple it with its failed ideology, if the Tigray people dont get rid of it before.

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Ethoash » 24 Feb 2020, 13:34

captain-nonsense...

the fed army have no right to cross the state line.. fed army have no right to wage war on any state.. read .read the constitution ዶ/ር ደብረፅዮን ገ/ሚካኤል should give permission for the fed army or police to come to golden state

meles and Desalegn totally different time ... meles and Desalegn win the power with Gun.. they have the right to tell u what to do .. Dr. Abiy win the power with negotiation without firing one gun. so part of the negotiation is to give the Golden ruler

የማርያም መንገድ መስጠት ነው። እንደው የፈደራል መንግስት እንደፈለገው እየመጣ የሚያስር ከሆነ ምኑን ነው ድርድሩ ። ዛሬ ጌታቸውን ነው። ነገ ደግሞ ማንን ነው። ክንፈን እኮ የስጠው የትግራይ መንግስት ነው። ሕግማ ያከብሩ ነበር ። ከሕግ ውጭ እነሱ የስጡትን ወንጀለኛ በስንስለት አስረውት በሕዝብ ፊት ሲያንጎራዱት ክብር የሚነካ ስራ የትግራይ መንግስት በዚህ ታቆማለኸ አለ እንጂ መጀመሪያማ ማንም ጥፋት አጥፍቶ ትግሬ መሽግያ አይደለችም ብሎ ነበር ። ነገሩ የተበላሽው እኮ በፈደራል መንግስት ነው።

በዚህ ላይ ለምን ፀባይ ለማሳመር ትፈልጋለህ አንተ አይደለህም ወይ አንድባንድ ትግሬዎች ወያኔዎችን ለቃቅሞ እስር ቤት መክተት ነው ብለህ ስትፈነዳ የነበርከው አሁን ይህ እየታወቅ ትግሬዎች ልጆቹዋን አንድባንድ አንስታ ት ስጥህ ወይ።

ያ ከሆነ እኮ ለምን አማሮች ዘጠኝ የፈደራል መንግስት ፖሊሶችን የገደል አንስጥም አሉ ። ለምን ኮነሬል ደመቀ ዘውደ ለትግሬዎች አሳልፈው አማሮች አይስጡም። ለምን የአዲስባ መንግስት በረከትን ለባህር ዳሮች አሳልፎ ስጠ ። ለምን ይህ ከሆነ ለምን ትግሬዎች የሚፈልጉትን ሰው ሲጠይቁ ለምን አይስጣቸውም። ለምን አማሮች መንገድ ይዘጋሉ። ይህንን በምንም መንግደ አትመልስም።

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Ethoash » 24 Feb 2020, 13:40

in second thought doctor capital_ nonsense

i agree with u 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% those evil TPLF who should not respect the fed. government request so what is the next move in your thinking of thinking

1. cry until the cow come home

2. send fed army and take our man wanted in crime of humanity

3. by talking about million time force criminal to give their own hand peacefully

when TPLF rule there were Derg official seating at Italy embassy no body was talking about them they were forgotten... but this idiot want us to talk day and day out about one man.. i am praying day and night Dr. Abiy make that mistake and send his fed army to capture this wanted man .. and i want to see the out come of his adventure ..

4. people like selam they r crying about tplf my question is pls make my day send the fed. army

now if u send fed army how many fed army r u willing to sacrificed ? u guys claim tplf killed 200 student in 2005 okay that good reason to go to war with tplf the question is how many r u willing to sacrificed ..

dont ask me from tplf side they did not ask for war they did not start the war.. but the Dr.Abiy is the one who send his army ..

now my last question if the fed army of Dr.Abiy defeated and if tplf army come to Addis ababa for second time what would be the deal are they going to run the nation for next 27 years.. u must think every thing before u star the war..

how about the tplf give the oromo their freedom or force the Amhara out of Ethiopia did u guys thought about it in all side before itching for war.. if u dont want war then shut the fk up and forget about GA. he is home .. u want him come get it.. u cant do that then shut the fk up..

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by captain_obvious » 24 Feb 2020, 14:48

Ethoash wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 13:40

now if u send fed army how many fed army r u willing to sacrificed ? u guys claim tplf killed 200 student in 2005 okay that good reason to go to war with tplf the question is how many r u willing to sacrificed ..

dont ask me from tplf side they did not ask for war they did not start the war.. but the Dr.Abiy is the one who send his army ..
Nobody has to die, the Tigray people have to shut down the tiny junta. It has to stop using state means to agitate for an uneffective and conflict generating system.

At the very least, Getachew Assefa needs to be put out of action and apply the federal warrant. On top of being guilty of numerous crimes that makes the METEC thieves sound like innocent children. He is masterminding from his village retreat the Yiakl agitation in Eritrea, the mass displacements in Somali Gedeo and Wellega regions, thus maiming millions and killing tens of thousands.

You have understood yourself the legal and historical arguments including the precedent of previous Prime Ministers which makes this change entirely necessary.

Short of that, other measures will come, and they will not be pretty.

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Degnet » 24 Feb 2020, 15:31

Ethoash wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 09:53
no give me the alternatives . saying it is many doesnt cut it .. r u saying let follow Chinese method or Indian method choice one and come back to me.

trust me only Amhara hate ethnic fed. system .. ethnic fed. system doesnt mean we going have a single ethnic state if hat the case we would have 84 ethnic state but what we have is only 9 few r creating as we speak but none of them are pure one ethnic

i will repeat it only Amhara hate ethnic fed. system and they will be defeated big time. or they will be kicked out from the union..

mr. capital nonsense what is your business in Ethiopian affair ?why not mind your own business .. PIA first and foremost must be resigned before i listen to him.. his welcome was long ended ..
You are not civilized,listen to learn,amezazen lemender new sew yemitelah belela aydelem be denkurnah new

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Re: South Sudan, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea all reject TPLFs ethnic politics

Post by Ethoash » 24 Feb 2020, 15:48

captain_obvious wrote:
24 Feb 2020, 14:48

Short of that, other measures will come, and they will not be pretty.
ይህንን እኮ ነው የምልህ ። ምን አባህ ታረጋለህ ሁሉም ነገር አልሳካም ቢልህ ትግሬዎች ጌታቸውን አልስጠህም ቢሉህ ምን ታመጣለህ ። ወይስ የእናቴ መቀነት አደናፈቀኝ እያልክ ስብብ እያበዛህ ዙሪያ ጥምጥሙን ትሄዳለህ ወይ ወይስ ወንድ ሆነህ ፊለፊት ገጥመሀቸው በወንጅል የሚፈለገውን ስው ተውስዳለህ።

ተለመንክ ተለመንክ ። ተው በአዲስ ምህራፍ እንጀምር ተባልክ ። እንቢ ካልክ ደግሞ ጦርነት መግጠም ነው እጣ ፋንታህ ወዴት ነው ወድዋላ ሸርተት ሽርተት ። ማውላመድ የለም ክተት አውጀኸ ጠላትኸን መግጠም ነው ማንነት ህን ማሳየት ነው ያለብህ።።።።

አለበለዚያ ትግሬዎች እራሳቸው አስረው ይስጡኝ ካልክ እኔም ጌታቸውን ነኝ ብለውሃል እኮ። አሁን ወንድነት ህ የሚፈተነበት ግዜ መጥቶዋልና ። ቆፍጥነህ ተነሳና ጦርህን ስብቀ።።።።

ሌላ እወነታ ልንገርህ ። ጦርነት መጀመሩ በጣም ቀላሉ ነገር ነው። በማሳስቅ ጦርነት ይጀመራል ። ዋናው ቁምነገሩ የሚጀምረው ጦርነቱን የምትሸነፍ ከሆንክ ነው ጣጣው የሚጀምረው ትግሬዎች ለሁለተኛ ግዜ ከመጡ አዲሳባባ ለጠቅላላ ጎሳዎች ነፃነታቸውን አውጀው ነው ወልቅ የሚሉት አዲስባባን ለቄሮና ለፋኖ ስጥተው የዛን ግዜ ትግሬዎች ማሩኝ ታላላቹሁ። ምን እዳ አለባቸው ትግሬዎች እኛን እሹሩሩ የሚሉት ።

ደግሞ አብይ ያሽንፋል እንበል ጌታቸውን ታገኛላቹሁ ሌሎችም ጥፋተኞች ተይዘው ይቅረቡ ሲባል በአፋጣኝ ተይዞ ይቀርብልሀል ። ግን ከተሽንፍክ አብይ መቀመቅ ይወራዳል። ፰ተኛው ንጉስ ማረኝ እስኪሚል ይገበለታል።

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