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YAY, you are speaking to yourself there...you continously display dishonesty here with your twisted logic, you stated "Dictatorship defended Eritrea's independence." The Eritrean martyrs nor Warsay in SAWA are or were the dictators... the suit wearing Dictators in PFDJ are the Dictators and will pay for their (YOUR) crimes!

YAY the dishonest "dictatorship" defender! No one believes your pack of lies!

Hi Awash: You've got to prove that your statements are true for me/anyone to believe you

In your previous post you said ""Come and see" is your propaganda slogan, isn't it? Then, let's see what's inside the thousands of containers and prove you're not cooking Eritreans alive...." Now, you are backtracking. Were you lying to me, Awash? Are chickening out, Awash? I knew you were not a daring advocate of democracy and human rights, as you seem to claim to be. You proved to everyone that you want to believe anything negative info related to Eritrea. You are scared to "come and see" and prove things.

I admit I do not know everything that goes on in Eritrea, but that fact does not make every claim you pulled out of somewhere true. You claim there are 15,000 prisoners of conscience languishing in metal containers, and thousands more in underground cells, in Eritrea. You want me to believe you on this info. without any credible evidence. How is one going to differentiate between ጸላኢ፡ ጸሎሎ ቀባኢ ካብ ንሓቂ ቀላዒ፡ ረታዒ then?
Where I live or don't live is not a helpful proof to make your allegations true. You have repeatedly displayed dishonesty to your readers. You've got to improve. Stop misinforming the public.

YOYO,
You're an idiot for thinking people are stupid enough to believe your crap. There are over 15 thousands prisoners of conscience in Eritrea languishing in not just metal containers, but thousands of underground cells. Oh, how horrible it is to die being cooked alive or being buried alive. You, yourself, have no idia how beastial and barbaric your Agame junta is. You live in the Fee West enjoying freedom and prosperity away from the stench of savage dictatorship.

Hi Awash: You are free to "come and see" in Eritrea and report what you found out

If you want to see Eritrea, every shipping container, etc., respond to the invitation, "come and see", and report to the world what you found out.
For example, one of the tourist visitors reported what she saw: that some of the guards at the "Tank Graveyard" in the Asmara vicinity stayed/lived in shipping containers. If those containers were for "cooking Eritreans", they would not freely do so, or everyone who claimed they were cooked in there wouldn't get out alive, right?

The invitation of the Government to "come and see" is out, and you can prove or disprove of the claim of the allegation and the "propaganda". If you volunteer to see, don't miss the invitation. Test the invitation personally.

YOYO and the other ugum shabo appologists and stooges,
"Come and see" is your propaganda slogan, isn't it? Then, let's see what's inside the thousands of containers and prove you're not cooking Eritreans alive for no good reason.

[YAY]

Hi [first, pastLast]: If I were speaking to myself, then, why did you respond for me?

You are calling the Eritrean Government leadership "the suit wearing Dictators in PFDJ" right? Nothing twisted here, right?
You stated that " The Eritrean martyrs nor Warsay in SAWA are or were the dictators..." which I did not say, and twisted it as if I said it, right?
You seem to be implying that the Eritrean martyrs and Warsay in SAWWA defended the independence of Eritrea without leadership, right?
I am not saying that the Eritrean martyrs or Warsay in SAWWA didn't have a significant role in defending Eritrea. That would be false. I am also not saying only 'the suit wearing Dictators in PFDJ" defended the independence of Eritrea. That would be false, too. The fact is that both parts, in coordination, defended the independence of Eritrea.

Do you know where your logic is getting twisted, and you think mine is?

In your denial that PFDJ leadership, from top to bottom, has an important role in defending Eritrea's independence. That is where. No national army/people can fight a war of national defense without leadership. And Eritrean leadership was what you called "the suit wearing Dictators in PFDJ". It is not that you don't know, but to deny them the fact that they had a role in defending the nation. If you do accept their contribution in defending Eritrea, then, your line of attack (that "dictators cannot defend freedom (national freedom in this case)) would be destroyed. That is why, I think, you don't want to admit the fact that PFDJ leadership (the so-called dictators) also had defended the independence of Eritrea.

If you think what I said is not true, you've got to tell us who led the Eritrean armed forces/people in their efforts to defend Eritrean national freedom. Just state what the facts are.

YAY, you are speaking to yourself there...you continously display dishonesty here with your twisted logic, you stated "Dictatorship defended Eritrea's independence." The Eritrean martyrs nor Warsay in SAWA are or were the dictators... the suit wearing Dictators in PFDJ are the Dictators and will pay for their (YOUR) crimes!

YAY the dishonest "dictatorship" defender! No one believes your pack of lies!

Hi Awash: You've got to prove that your statements are true for me/anyone to believe you

In your previous post you said ""Come and see" is your propaganda slogan, isn't it? Then, let's see what's inside the thousands of containers and prove you're not cooking Eritreans alive...." Now, you are backtracking. Were you lying to me, Awash? Are chickening out, Awash? I knew you were not a daring advocate of democracy and human rights, as you seem to claim to be. You proved to everyone that you want to believe anything negative info related to Eritrea. You are scared to "come and see" and prove things.

I admit I do not know everything that goes on in Eritrea, but that fact does not make every claim you pulled out of somewhere true. You claim there are 15,000 prisoners of conscience languishing in metal containers, and thousands more in underground cells, in Eritrea. You want me to believe you on this info. without any credible evidence. How is one going to differentiate between ጸላኢ፡ ጸሎሎ ቀባኢ ካብ ንሓቂ ቀላዒ፡ ረታዒ then?
Where I live or don't live is not a helpful proof to make your allegations true. You have repeatedly displayed dishonesty to your readers. You've got to improve. Stop misinforming the public.

YOYO,
You're an idiot for thinking people are stupid enough to believe your crap. There are over 15 thousands prisoners of conscience in Eritrea languishing in not just metal containers, but thousands of underground cells. Oh, how horrible it is to die being cooked alive or being buried alive. You, yourself, have no idia how beastial and barbaric your Agame junta is. You live in the Fee West enjoying freedom and prosperity away from the stench of savage dictatorship.

Hi Awash: You are free to "come and see" in Eritrea and report what you found out

If you want to see Eritrea, every shipping container, etc., respond to the invitation, "come and see", and report to the world what you found out.
For example, one of the tourist visitors reported what she saw: that some of the guards at the "Tank Graveyard" in the Asmara vicinity stayed/lived in shipping containers. If those containers were for "cooking Eritreans", they would not freely do so, or everyone who claimed they were cooked in there wouldn't get out alive, right?

The invitation of the Government to "come and see" is out, and you can prove or disprove of the claim of the allegation and the "propaganda". If you volunteer to see, don't miss the invitation. Test the invitation personally.

YOYO and the other ugum shabo appologists and stooges,
"Come and see" is your propaganda slogan, isn't it? Then, let's see what's inside the thousands of containers and prove you're not cooking Eritreans alive for no good reason.

[Awash]

I don't have to prove diddly squat. Are you telling us these people are alive, well and free and not inside some gulag of yours or dead? Prove it. I'm issuing Writ of habeas corpus.
You are hereby ordered to produce the bodies of your victims in your gulags. This is not a dialogue: this is an order.

Hi Awash: You've got to prove that your statements are true for me/anyone to believe you...

[Awash]

[Awash]

YOYO,
This is an eyewitness personnal account of Eritreans being cooked alive under your savage regime.

[AbyssiniaLady]

What are the unanswered Etiyopiya's/Eritrea's fundamental questions ?

Tamerat Negera says,

ጠ/ሚ አብይ በዚህ በኢትዮ-ኤርትራ ጉዳይ ካደረጉት አንድ ነገር ምንድርነው፧ ለመላው ዓለም ኣቀፍ ማኅበረሰብ ኢትዮጵያ ያለወደብ እንዳትቀጥል[ማለት] እንደማትቀጥል፡ እንደማትቀጥል፡ እንደማይቻል፡ ግልጽ ኣድርገው ኣስቀምጠዋል። ባሕር ሓይል መል'ልሰው ኣቋቍመዋል። እነዚህ እነዚህ እርምጃዎች ደግሞ ኤርትራውያን ውስጥም ስግኣት ኣለ። እነዚህ ስግኣቶች ኣልተመልለሱም ... ለኤርትራውያን ያል'ለ ስግኣት ኣልተመል'ለሰም፡ ለኢትዮጵያውያን ያል'ለ ፍላጎት ኣልተሳክ'ካም። ነገር ግን ያው ሁለቱን ግል'ለሰቦች ወቅታዊ እንትን t it-for-tat ቲት-ፎር-ታት ለመጠበቅ እና balance ባላንስ ለማድረግ እየተንቀሳቀሰ ያል'ለ ነገር ነው። ስለዚህ ይሄ ያል'ለውን ትኵሳት ለማርገብ ችግሩን የማሸጋገር ዓይነት ጕዕዞ አድርጌ ነው የማየው እንጂ መሰረታዊ ጥያቄዎች ኣልተመልለሱም። ... እንኳን ሊመልለሱ discuss ዲስካስ እየተደረጉ አይደል'ለም።

Roughly translated: "Among things PM Abiy has done, one is that he made the the entire international community know abundantly clearly that it is impossible for Etiyopiya to go on, cannot continue on, without a port. He has re-established a naval force. Such steps have engendered a threat among Eritreans. These threats have not been answered to Eritreans, and Etiyopiyan need [for ports] has also not been answered. However, the moves done by the two individuals [Abiy and Issaias] are temporary actions of t it-for-tat and keeping balance kind of thing. Therefore, what I think is happening is reducing the existing heat and kicking the problem [forward and unsolved] type of movement, but the fundamental questions remain unanswered."

It is true that Etiyopiya has a naval force in Lake Tsana and now possesses one vessel. News reports [see Dickens Olewe's "Why landlocked Ethiopia wants to launch a navy" on BBC News, June 14, 2018] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44369382 indicate that PM Abiy has ambitions of building a naval force, and some countries are interested in constructing a navy to landlocked Etiyopiya. However,

plans for how to achieve this goal have not been made public.

We, Eritreans, do not know Abiy's purposes, and we cannot assess if his navy project is complementary or contrary to Eritrea's national interests.

Mr. Roba Megerssa Akawak, head of the state-owned Ethiopian Shipping & Logistics Services Enterprise (ESLSE), however, indicated that the presence of big power military bases in Djibouti may be "a threat to Ethiopia." He also added that ESLSE operates 11 Etiyopiyan commercial ships (based in Djibouti) and "a navy would also help protect [these] ships" and "other economic interests" in the Red Sea. A former Etiyopiyan diplomat thinks that

strategic and geopolitical security concerns could be driving the navy plan.

The same diplomat further said that there is a push for

the unification of the Horn of Africa as an economic bloc and the navy is part of that project.

Others speculate that Etiyopiya may desire to target Islamist operations in Somalia and the Indian Ocean. In addition, Etiyopiya "still has a civilian maritime institute which trains more than 500 maritime engineers and electrotechnical officers each year". If these are the purposes of the future Etiyopiyan navy, they may be complementary to Eritrea's purposes of making the international commercial lanes along its coasts in the Red Sea safer.

Etiyopiya has already signed agreements with Djibouti, Somalia, Kenya, etc. on port utilization, and it would be advantageous and publicly clearer for us to negotiate with Etiyopiya, and Eritrea needs to legally do the same. Etiyopiya has made arrangements with other countries to enjoy port services without the need to invade and occupy Eritrea and use "its own port" in our sea shores. That was tried by previous Etiyopiyan regimes, and the result was disastrous. No fundamental questions are answered at once, and Tamerat & Co. should know that respect to Eritrean sovereignty comes first before using any parts of Eritrea, if we are going to coexist peacefully.

Ethiopian navy ships will not be able to patrol the vast Indian Ocean to play cat and mouse with Al Shabab, the core roles of the new Ethiopian navy is to protect the interests of Ethiopia and Djibouti in the Red Sea, the Bab el Mandeb, the entire exclusive economic zone of Eritrea and to fight against child trafficking and migrant smuggling at Red Sea etc, Furthermore, It has the authority to board, search and seize any vessels flying Eritrean flag or carrying weapons to Eritrea.